interesting idea. I of course don't know if the 'precipitate' is 
actually a solid precipitate or a viscous liquid of some kind, or 
water comtaminated by something (I don' t filter the oil so there 
could be anything suspended in it), or what. I't s happened more than 
once.

mark


--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm, if the wvo had some calcium ion present (via extraction in 
the hot 
> oil from fish or chicken bones maybe) and you used sulfuric acid as 
the 
> catalyst, you could be precipitating out insoluble calcium sulfate, 
ie 
> gypsum.  This could also use up your catalyst and stop the 
> esterification of the free fatty acids. This seems to be a long 
shot 
> because I can't imagine significant Calcium extraction with hot 
oil, but 
> it would explain a precipitate.
> 
> 
> 
> Keith Addison wrote:
> 
> > Hello Mark
> > 
> > 
> >>I sometimes also get that 'salt' looking thing that Pieter is 
talking
> >>about. Mine falls out at the end of the acid stage if I let it 
sit for a
> >>few days.
> >>mark
> > 
> > 
> > Interesting. I've never let it sit for a few days though. Never 
> > drained it at the end of the acid stage either, but I've done 
quite a 
> > lot of acid-base tests and the test processor's HDPE, 
> > semi-transparent, but still, I never saw any salts there.
> > 
> > Anyway, if it's at the end of the acid stage it's obviously not 
NaOH 
> > as Pieter suspects.
> > 
> > Best
> > 
> > Keith
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>- I can't imagine anything that would separate the
> >>
> >>>NaOH unless you didn't mix it thoroughly in the first place. Acid
> >>>would separate it from the glycerine by-product cocktail, but it
> >>>would need more acid to do that than the amount of sulphuric
> >>
> >>acid
> >>
> >>>specified, which should have been more than neutralised by
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>methoxide anyway.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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