Ernest, it's pretty clear why Todd is missing the point. It's amusing and kinda' sad though. I remember a rant directed at me because I said that voting in federal elections was a waste of time and that change is only possible through local action. Now, he's at it again. I guess his solution is to single-handedly bully our elected officials into passing pro-biofuels legislation. Obviously the best course of action is to offend the people whose opinion or behavior you seek to change; just look at PETA's successful fur-spray-painting campaign.
Oh and BTW, IMHO [net acronyms], you're right. The fact that we shuffled off the yoke of English imperialism means that we now have the freedom to delete the letter "u" from behavior. The language is ours now. -BRAH -----Original Message----- From: ernest breakfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 2:07 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: More flies with honey than vinegar (Was: RE: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator) todd, it's clear you're missing the point; what's not clear is why. Appal Energy wrote: > Last thing I need Ernest? It's some "rocket scientist" telling me what I > have to say in order to placate/please him or her, i can't speak for Bryan, but i'm certainly not professing to be any Rocket Scientist. ;-) (let's hope you don't have an issue with emoticons, too! next thing we know, it's going to be contractions!) Bryans message (as i took it) wasn't about the content or anyone telling you "what you have to say"; it was to point out that you're going to have a better chance of reaching people if you don't use such a caustic manner. > much less the nettiquette > police posting their message in acronym shorthand rather than the Queen's > english. no police here, and i answer to no Queen... > Don't care for the remarks? Don't read 'em. a ridiculous stance, of course, since no-one could know that they don't like something without reading it,... and demonstrates the point that if people don't like the form you're presenting in, they're not going to get the benefit of the message you're trying to share if they ignore the rest of what you have to share based on not liking the form of an earlier message of yours. > It gets extremely wasteful and repetetive fighting the same disinformation > battles over, and over, and over, and over, and over again, and again, and > again, and again...., all the while listening to the same old false > arguments by the same people who profess to be environmentally inclined and > supposedly serving the best interests of others. unfortunately, telling one persons something doesn't always get the message across to them, (as is being evidenced here) and certainly doesn't educate everyone; there are new people that could coming into the discussion that could benefit from what's being shared if they didn't get turned off by having the information presented in a foul manner. nobody's asking you to shut up, rather, what's being suggested is in the hopes that you may be able to reach more people. of course, if you're only intent on spouting off about how stupid everyone else is, there's probably no hope. > Horse manure. Try selfish, constipated, technocrats and ingrained > bureaucrats more interested in creating roadblocks than in implementing > solutions. turning off people who could potential become advocates because of poor form isn't going to help win any of those battles. > Those who can't talk, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk some more. > Those who can do. that, of course, doesn't excuse poor form on the part of those who profess to 'do'. here's hoping you have a better day! cheers! e [much snippage] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
