"fox mulder" wrote: >I am sorry you are wrong in your perception of Bush's >motivation. It seems you have a pro-isreal >stance.Isreal has stolen Arab land in breech of th >united nation resolution. Whenever, this question >arises in the UN, Bush will veto any motion put >forward by the UN. >Futhermore, Bush has backed the Shoron's plan to keep >the west bank land he stole from the Arabs. Is this >just? How please explain.
Huh? When you say "you" it could mean me, the most likely choice as it's my message you're replying to, or Matt, or reporter Bob Dreyfuss or any of the people he mentions. So which exactly do you mean? I don't see a pro-Israel stance in any of them. Please explain. Keith Addison > --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--------------------------------- >See: >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/23824/ > >Best > >Keith > > >I think the real reason for this war can be traced >back to Mr. Bush's > >Evangelical roots... and his "faith" based approach >to foreign policy. > > > >Radical Neo-Conservatives are running this country >and doing exactly what > >they have proposed for years... They believe without >failing that by > >installing a democratic regime in the Middle East, >they can "convert" the > >Islamic world to be more like the West. > > > >This irrational policy totally ignores facts, and >cannot hear any dissent > >(or logic). They Bush Administration is simply doing >exactly what the > >Evangelical and Neo-Con movements have been talking >about for years! None > >of this should be a surprise to anyone. > > > >The largest political block in this country >supporting the war has been, and > >continues to be, evangelical Christians (polling at >80% in support of the > >war). To pass the blame onto Israel is really a >copout.... Sure the > >current Likud government is in support of the war, >but Bush would sell > >Israel down the river in a second if he thought it >would help his political > >position. > > > >I advise everyone to go to PBS and watch a Frontline >piece on Bushes ties to > >the Evangelical Christian right. In his mind we are >fighting the > >Armageddon... clash of civilizations. Israel and the >Jews are not running > >this show... I really believe that Israel is only >important to this > >administration as a pawn in the biblical prophecy >they truly believe they > >are fulfilling. > > > >http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/ > > > >We are truly in scary times.... We need to all work >for change and bring > >this country and the world back from the brink. > > > >Matt Golden > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:49 AM > >Subject: [biofuel] Oil and Israel > > > > > > > >http://www.tompaine.com/articles/oil_and_israel.php > > > > > > Oil and Israel > > > Bob Dreyfuss , The Dreyfuss Report > > > May 25, 2004 > > > > > > The two unmentionables about Iraq are suddenly >getting mentioned. The > > > real reasons for the attack on Iraq had nothing to >do with WMDs, that > > > ultimate red herring. The real reasons: oil and >Israel. > > > > > > Let's take oil first. Prince Turki al -Faisal , >the Saudi ambassador > > > to the UK and no radical he, charges that the >invasion of Iraq might > > > have had something to do with what's under Iraq's >sand: > > > >http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/forms/printstory.asp?section=Breaki > > > ng&storyId=868913&tw=wn_wire_story > > > > > > The U.S.-led invasion of Iraq was a colonial war >and there were some > > > in the United States who saw it as a means of >getting their hands on > > > Iraqi oil, a senior Saudi ambassador was quoted as >saying Monday. > > > > > > Prince Turki al-Faisal, ambassador to Britain and >Ireland, told the > > > Irish Independent newspaper Washington's stated >aims in going to war > > > in Iraq masked a more cynical reality. > > > > > > "No matter how exalted the aims of the U.S. in >that war, in the final > > > analysis it was a colonial war very similar to the >wars conducted by > > > the ex-colonial powers when they went out to >conquer the rest of the > > > world ...," Prince Turki said. > > > > > > John Kerry, ever Mr. Cautious ("if only I can stay >two points to the > > > left of Bush I can win"), suggested that oil might >have had something > > > do with the invasion, too. Kerry, who's constantly >bashing the > > > Saudis, didn't exactly line up with Prince Turki. >And he didn't > > > exactly sound like an anti-imperialist, either. >But he did suggest > > > that oil was a factor. In a Washington Times piece >entitled "Kerry > > > hints at link between oil, Iraq war," the Times >reports: > > > >http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040524-103200-9250r.htm > > > > > > Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry >yesterday suggested > > > that America's dependence on foreign oil is the >major reason the > > > United States went to war with Iraq. > > > > > > "A strong America begins at home-with energy >independence from the > > > Middle East. Let's ensure that no young American >soldier has to fight > > > and die because of our dependence on foreign oil," >the Massachusetts > > > senator said. > > > > > > Okay, not exactly courageous, but it's a start. >Speaking of courage > > > though, have you seen Sen. Fritz Hollings' >statement that Israel, > > > too, was a major reason for the war in Iraq? >Hollings, the > > > white-haired courtly southern gentleman, who's >finally retiring and > > > getting out of Dodge, wrote an article for the >Charleston Post and > > > Courier on May 6 (now posted on Hollings' >website), noting that > > > perhaps President Bush was motivated to attack >Iraq more by his > > > desire to protect Ariel Sharon's Israel than any >other reason. Wrote > > > Hollings : > > > >http://hollings.senate.gov/~hollings/opinion/2004506A17.html > > > > > > Of course there were no weapons of mass >destruction. Israel's > > > intelligence, Mossad, knows what's going on in >Iraq. They are the > > > best. They have to know. > > > > > > Israel's survival depends on knowing. Israel long >since would have > > > taken us to the weapons of mass destruction if >there were any or if > > > they had been removed. With Iraq no threat, why >invade a sovereign > > > country? The answer: President Bush's policy to >secure Israel. > > > > > > Led by Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and Charles >Krauthammer, for years > > > there has been a domino school of thought that the >way to guarantee > > > Israel's security is to spread democracy in the >area. > > > > > > You don't come to town and announce your Israel >policy is to invade > > > Iraq. But George W. Bush, as stated by former >Treasury Secretary Paul > > > O'Neill and others, started laying the groundwork >to invade Iraq days > > > after inauguration. And, without any Iraq >connection to 9/11, within > > > weeks he had the Pentagon outlining a plan to >invade Iraq. > > > > > > For making that courageous statement, Hollings >noted in a statement > > > two weeks later that he was attacked for being >anti-Semitic. Yet he > > > went on to accuse the Project for a New American >Century of > > > developing that "domino policy for Israel," and he >added that he was > > > sticking to his guns: "That is exactly what it is. >But they know how > > > to make you tuck tail and run. Not the Senator >from South Carolina. > > > We don't run." > > > >http://hollings.senate.gov/~hollings/statements/2004521A35.html > <snip> >I am sorry you are wrong in your perception of Bush's >motivation. It seems you have a pro-isreal >stance.Isreal has stolen Arab land in breech of th >united nation resolution. Whenever, this question >arises in the UN, Bush will veto any motion put >forward by the UN. >Futhermore, Bush has backed the Shoron's plan to keep >the west bank land he stole from the Arabs. Is this >just? How please explain. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! 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