From steven mesibov:

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>FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>DATE: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 06:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
>SUBJECT: Re: [biofuel] Washing 1 liter batches
>
>Keith, Todd, et. al.,
>
>I have read so much on the need for washing and the different methods and
>on the fact that violent washing is okay if you process correctly that it
>just occurred to me:
>
>Why not use the reaction vessel for washing as well as the initial mixing?
> Would pump washing (especially if you used something like Lyle's at
>Piedmont Static In-Line Mixer by KoFlo) be acceptable?  It would certainly
>save on having another large container for small operations.
>
>Steve
>
>--- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello Brian
> >
> > >Hello.  I am just starting in the production of my own
> > >biodiesel.  I have made several 1 liter test batches,
> >
> > Good for you!
> >
> > >but I'm not sure how to wash them.  I can't find
> > >anything online particular to small batches, but I
> > >have found sources that say bubblewashing will be too
> > >violent and cause emulsification.
> >
> > People who say bubblewashing's too violent and set off on a quest for
> > ever-gentler washing methods (eg "mist" washing) have taken a wrong
> > turn before they start. Gentle washing techniques only mask the real
> > problem, which is that the stuff isn't processed properly in the
> > first place, they need to improve their processing.
> >
> > Emulsification doesn't normally happen with well-processed fuel. It's
> > caused by either (or probably both) too much soap and poor
> > conversion, leaving diglycerides and monoglycerides, which are
> > emulsifiers. If your fuel's properly made you won't be able to
> > emulsify it no matter how violently you agitate it. That is what you
> > should be aiming for.
> >
> > See "Emulsification" and "Emulsion Explained" here:
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash2.html#emuls
> >
> > So, some suggestions. First, take about 150ml of your finished,
> > unwashed fuel and do this with it:
> > Quality testing
> > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality
> >
> > Let us know what happens.
> >
> > Second, you can bubblewash it, in a 2-litre PET bottle. From Todd:
> >
> > >You can use the pop-up cap found on water bottles at your grocer as the
> > >"valve" for drainage.
> > >
> > >This turns any PET bottle into a separative funnel.
> > >
> > >It takes a little practice to get the "valve" to trickle properly, but
> > it
> > >does work superbly.
> >
> > More details on how that works here:
> > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/13265/
> >
> > You know those pop-up caps? Maybe made for cyclists or something.
> > We've used something a little different (I think), a screw-on pop-up
> > cap with a straw through the middle that goes right down to the
> > bottom of the bottle, with an air-inlet gap around the straw, and the
> > cap closing both the straw and the air-inlet. Do your bubblewash,
> > remove the air-stone and air-pipe from the pump, screw on the pop-up
> > cap, turn the bottle upside down and allow to settle. To drain off
> > the settled water, hold the bottle (still upside down) over the sink
> > or something, lift the cap; the water comes out the air-inlet gap,
> > air goes up the straw to the top (bottom) of the bottle, and draining
> > is smooth without any glug-glugging that'll splash and prevent a
> > clean separation. If you can't find something like this you could
> > easily rig it with some thin air-pipe and epoxy putty. If you can't
> > find an air-stone small enough to fit the neck of the PET bottle, cut
> > the neck off; when the wash is finished decant it all into another
> > PET bottle and use the pop-up cap as above.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >
> > >Will someone share
> > >a success story?
> > >
> > >Thank you,
> > >
> > >Brian



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