Hi Donald,
Welcome to the rest of the world, all except North America, have worked on a higher use of diesel for many years now. Brazil went the Alcohol way, but seams to pick up biodiesel now again. The interesting thing is that all diesel fuel in Brazil will be minimum B2 from coming November, by regulation, as I understand it. It is also interesting that Brazil only imports 1/3 of their diesel fuel and with the new discoveries, could be self supplied for some times to come. Europe work on a 50% use of personal diesel cars by 2020 and are already using around 30 times more than US, around 30%, compared with US 1% for personal cars. Since 1996 all the European diesels are biodiesel compatible. In Germany, Austria and France, biodiesel mix B20, start to be readily available. Diesel engine, as a "ready for use" energy saving technology. http://energysavingnow.com/biofuels/dieseltech.shtml Volkswagen symposium unveils diesel strategies. http://energysavingnow.com/biofuels/vwdiesels.shtml VW expect that the Americans will discover the use of diesel and biodiesel around 2006. A couple of years and maybe a regime change is needed. We cannot do it the American way, but maybe it will come about peacefully anyway. Hakan At 02:54 03/08/2004, you wrote: >Hi Erik, > >--- Erik Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Peugeot-Citroen is actually developing a diesel > > hybrid, and there is information to be found saying > > that diesel hybrid is the best currently useable > > technology. Here are some links that I found on > > google: > > > > > <http://waw.wardsauto.com/ar/auto_volkswagen_tests_hybrid/>http://waw.wardsauto.com/ar/auto_volkswagen_tests_hybrid/ > > http://www.all4engineers.com/preview.php?cms=&lng=en&alloc=1&id=2112 > > > > > > this is a motorcycle, but very interesting: > > ><http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=228382&fSectionId=896&fSetId=381>http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=228382&fSectionId=896&fSetId=381 > > > > http://www.hybridcars.com/news/citroen_hybrid.html > > > > here's a report recommending diesel-hybrids over fuel > > cells, but it's put out by the lead-acid battery > > consortium, so they have a vested interest in the one > > over the other (tho at least they cite their sources): > > > > > <http://www.alabc.org/2003_newsletters/KPv1_03.PDF>http://www.alabc.org/2003_newsletters/KPv1_03.PDF > > > > >http://www.bucknell.edu/communications/releases/Archives%202003/2003-04%20fall%20semester/hybrid%20vehicles%208-26-03.htm > > > > sorry about the length of some of those links. you'll > > just have to cut and paste them back together to take > > a look at the longer ones. > > > > erik > > > >Thanks for the links - I must admit I hadn't done a very thorough >search of what's currently in development (as opposed to already in the >market), but if these sites are to believed then Diesel hybrids are >just around the corner. I hope these projects make it into the market >and don't get their funding cut at the last minute. > >Interestingly, there seems to be a definite split between the "hydrogen >power and fuel cells will save the world" community and the "the world >can be saved by more intelligent use of current technology, such as >hybrid technology" community. In the latter I would also put "increased >use of public transport" as being a core aim. I'm not sure how much of >this is down to vested interests putting across their point of view. >All the talk of hydrogen power to me seems a long way off making any >useful contribution, as with current technology most of it will be >produced using non-renewable electricity. However it's seen as being >sexier - maybe the hydrogen proponents have done a better job of >marketing to alter public perception? > >Regards, >Donald > >===== >-- >43 - slightly more than the answer to life, the universe and everything. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
