Hi Peggy,

I was not referring to 'hydrogen' when I mention 'Hydro'. I was referring
to hydro-electric dams. Including them in the mix to boost one's
'friendly' renewable portfolio is disingenuous. It would be similar to the
utility companies saying that nuclear power is environmentally friendly
because it does not emit greenhouse gasses.

Ron B.
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> Let's not confuse production techniques with use criteria when
> evaluating hydrogen.  If we use hydrogen generated from ocean waves, we
> have a free energy source.  At that point transport and storage become
> the challenges... and these can be met. BTW, I am a fuel ethanol
> exponent, and also appreciate other healthy solutions.
> Peggy
>
>>  Reading below --
>>
>>  John Kerry on the environment:
>>  An exclusive Grist interview.
>>  By Amanda Griscom
>>  23 Sep 2003
>>  http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2003/09/23/griscom-kerry/
>>
>>  mentions his Harley, Mini Van and why, amoungst other things.
> =================================================
> Mr. Kerry mentions renewables and uses California as an example. Well,
> you
> can take that example and in fact some of the countries in Europe
> (Scandanavia) and knock a good precentage off what's regarded as an
> environmentally friendly renewable...because of the Hydro mix.
>
> In general, Hydro is bad. Pure and simple. It alters and/or destroys the
> environment. To use Hydro as an environmentally friendly renewable is
> preposterous. Please don't bring up 1KW user turbines. I'm talking about
> hydro plants for a big city.
>
> Ask the Native Americans in Manitoba about what they think about Hydro.
> Ask the Sierra Club what they think about Hydro.
> Ask....
>
> Ron B.
>
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