Peggy, How can I contact you or your group directly? Please respond to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I am interested in your small scale ethanol prodution systems.
Thanks, Bill Clark Director, The Fuel for School Project Eufaula, AL 36027 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Short-range hydrogen > Good for you Walt! > > And we at BioFuels Energy Corporation are the same. Because we > understand the need for biofuels, we (a group of people who are mostly > retired or semi-retired) have designed a small fuel ethanol production > facility that can be easily set up in most any area for immediate > processing of all cellulosic waste materials. And someday, we hope to > recoup some of the money we have individually invested plus something > for our time. > > And grass-roots people like your buddies and our team bootstrapping > ourselves without federal aid is important is demonstrating that WE ARE > NOT DEPENDENT ON GOVERNMENT-- Yet we appreciate incentives, and > financial help when available. > > I, too, have received some (not much, though, mostly kudos) flack on > what we are doing. I appreciate the recent humorous message on changing > a light bulb. We are the light bulb changers. The other people are a > part of the rest of it. > > If you would like to know more about recent progress with my assiciate's > wave-energy hydrogen production, let me know. This technology is also > moving along fairly well considering the lack of funding and time off > from regular employment to forward the process. The pilot projects have > done well and now we are entering into a demonstration phase. Our buoy > system with hydrogen generation capabilities also produces it's own > energy to light up the buoys. It's pretty exciting. And we now have a > few investors that seem ready to take their first steps in our next > round of funding. Money helps. If you have an ocean-front property, we > could possibly set up hydrogen and electricity production adjacent to > your front yard. > > Best wishes, > Peggy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Walt Patrick > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Short-range hydrogen > > At 09:56 AM 10/12/04 -0400, Steve wrote: > >Walt isn't being upfront about the system costs of a renewable system > that > >can generate 30 miles per day of hydrogen. It's more than you will pay > in > >fuel taxes in your lifetime. > > You're probably right, but so what? > > Everyone's situation is different, and therefore their options > will differ > as well. Our situation is such that we're not constrained by the > economics > that rule corporate research. > > Corporations have to pay rent for the land they use; we've got > our 130 > acre campus, and the building's we've built there, and eleven septic > systems, and more than a mile of underground water lines, and so on all > owned outright, so we don't have to figure those costs in our systems. > > And we don't have shareholders who expect a monetary return on > that > investment. What they do expect is that we'll use these resources to > explore ways that sustainable energy can be made relevant to > community-based systems. > > Corporations have to pay hefty salaries to get engineers to > design and > build their systems; we're a team of retired/laid-off engineers who live > > here and do these things because they're fun and need doing, so we don't > > have to figure those personnel costs in either. > > Corporations have to hire welders, machinists and electricians > to set up > their systems; we have our own machine shop with six different types of > welders, an induction foundry that can handle 200 pound castings, our > own > saw mill (and our own trees for that matter), and on and on . . . > > Are we a bunch of amateur tinkers? You bet, we are. We do this > because we > love the concepts, are fascinated by the technology and committed to > finding ways to weave a renewable matrix that will provide a quality > life. > > It's sort of like the need to distinguish between what one's > going to have > for dinner, and how one is going to manage their diet. You can get a > McDonald's double-cheese burger for a buck a piece every day of the > week, > so why endure all the upfront cost involved in building a kitchen and > learning to cook? > > Walt > http://www.windward.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
