Is ":-) I'd suggest you check on whether the process is watertight before
you start bothering about the reactor. (It ain't!) " in reference to
base catalyzed reactions or something else?

I'm sorry Andy, I don't see how it could refer to anything other than the Biox reaction, it's not ambiguous. If you'd checked the links I gave you you'd have found not only further confirmation of that but a lot more information, including some you just said you've been looking for. So why don't you just do that? Here they are again:

> See:
>
> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/35434/
>
> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/35449/
>
> Check the links in those posts.

It's a blind alley anyway, unless you really are doing advanced stuff (more advanced than Biox). Have you made any biodiesel yet, single-stage base test batches for instance?

Keith



Andy


On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 02:07:51 +0900, Keith Addison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Andy
>
> >I am helping a friend setup a reactor and he has 4 55 gallon drums of
> >IPA.  He has little time so it is slow going, but I will let you know
> >how it goes.  Since the it has the higher boiling point we will run at
> >a higher temperatures.
> >
> >I am interested in trying the BIOX reaction as well but want to make
> >sure that the reactor is air tight first.
>
> :-) I'd suggest you check on whether the process is watertight before
> you start bothering about the reactor. (It ain't!) Rather thoroughly
> discussed here previously, a few times. I think calling it "the BIOX
> reaction" might be somethinbg of a misnomer, for one thing.
>
> See:
>
> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/35434/
>
> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/35449/
>
> Check the links in those posts.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Keith
>
>
> >Andy
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:12:26 -0300, Andres Yver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 13, 2005, at 05:50 AM, Jan Warnqvist wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello there !
> > > > Is there anyone who has experience in isopropyl alcohol or its esters
> > > > as fuel components ?
> > > > Jan Warnqvist
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's a pdf out of Iowa State University:
> > >
> > > www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/Technical%20Papers/Wang%20Intro.pdf
> > >
> > > The production of isopropyl esters and their effects on a diesel engine
> > >
> > > "The scope of this research was to improve the cold weather properties
> > > of neat biodiesel
> > > by investigating the manufacture of isopropyl esters from soybean oil
> > > and yellow grease.
> > > Isopropyl esters have a lower crystallization temperature compared to
> > > methyl esters from the same source material."
> > >
> > > www.me.iastate.edu/biodiesel/Technical%20Papers/
> > > Wang%20Equip%20Analysis%20Results.pdf
> > >
> > > Optimizing the Transesterification Process for Isopropyl Esters
> > >
> > > "Producing isopropyl esters requires the use of isopropyl alcohol as
> > > opposed to methyl
> > > esters, which utilize methanol, or ethyl esters, which use ethanol.
> > > Commonly, most biodiesel
> > > consists of methyl esters and methanol is used since it is cheap and
> > > widely available.
> > > Methanol is priced between $.04-.24/lb [14] and is the fourth largest
> > > organic chemical in the U.S. in terms of volume. Isopropanol, on the
> > > other hand, is priced between $.20 - .34/lb [14], which makes it more
> > > expensive to make isopropyl esters. However, the yield for isopropyl
> > > esters is about 10% more than methyl esters because of the heavier
> > > molecular weight. So, this partially compensates for the increased
> > > cost."
> > >
> > > hth,
> > > andres yver

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