Mark, I think Ken and Bob did a good job addressing your response. So, I need not add to it. Even if Ken and Bob are wrong and global warming is "junk science", you're missing the point. Most people associate Kyoto with global warming. However, you can't address global warming without also addressing air quality (your health) and sustainability. Irrespective of your opinion about the credibility of global warming, you are downplaying the importance for human beings to become the Stewards of their environment when you attack the objectives of the Kyoto protocols and the spirit in which it was written. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who considers themselves an environmental activist and is within an earshot of such an opinion, should actively oppose it and prevent others from adopting such a dangerous position. Mike.
"Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry Mike Actually most CO2 emissions come from Decomposing Plant material. It is amazing what pointing out simple "Off subject" issues in a post will do. Cheers Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Redler Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science Hi Mark, You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science" ...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the emissions from our civilization comes from the burning of fossil fuels, here's a little experiment you can do at home. 1.) Get yourself a chain saw and bring it with you into your bathroom 2.) Close the door 3.) Start the chain saw and report the air quality every five minutes or until you pass out (whatever happens first). You might want to do this while a friend is in the next room. Safety first! 4.) As a side experiment, please do your best to run the engine dry so that it stimulates the brain to ask two questions: a.) "where is my next fill up going to come from?". b.) "If I perform this experiment again, is there an alternative fuel that will make my bathroom stink less and keep me from passing out so soon?" If you decide to perform any experiments like this one, please get back to us with your results as soon as possible because I'm sure that everyone at JTF is anxious to know if fossil fuels really harm the environment and if those holes in the ground are really bottomless. ** not responsible for lost limbs or other injuries that occur during this experiment ** Mike Keith Addison wrote: John Wilson wrote: >Kyoto is nothing more than a means for the government in power to >syphon from the tax payer billions of dollars for their friends and has >very little to do with global warming. It also helps those countries >that do not have a Etc etc, while Mark L. Thompson wrote: >Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science. Simulations that can't even >predict better than random number generators. Hockey stick temperature >graphs that the author will not even provide source data or equations >for. Stratospherically temperatures that are running opposite to GW >models. > >Kyoto is going to be economic suicide and I predict that most of Europe >is going to figure it out and ... etc etc, and Duane Shaw wrote: >Bravo Mark! And, no doubt, so on... Only in America! LOL! "Opinions" bought, funded and paid for by guess who??? Not exactly news... please see (along with further archives and other refs therein): http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050124/005269.html [Biofuel] Oil firms fund climate change 'denial' What a surprise! But, as Bob Allen notes: "It is impossible to reason someone out of something that they did not reason themselves into in the first place. Jonathan Swift." Yea, verily. Maybe a bit of mockery instead? Best wishes Keith _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
