Kim
Greetings
All the overcrowed urban , the place in MEGA City become
much expensive, ecologically destructive , the under developed
suburban areas having less people.These suburban place around the
city can be used make food, fuel , feed needed for the urban city.
But the same model for the urban developments of destroying the
lands are also used in all the places , no employments , no local
work , no local industry as importation is made easy than local
production
It is true that that any 'new urbanism' is not going to be a
improvement , but decentralized Ruralized suburban can really
make the urban areas sustainable and a lot of the improvements. For
this we need to have peoples power in the hands of the people who
love the place and democracy and suburban people to make the place
more productive , by local production and sharing.The global economy
need not be allowed to kill the local development and local economy
.The combined fuel and food production done locally and sharing the
products are still practised in sevral urban areas. The local small
city local economy in Brasil is not yet destroyed by global economy
, thus saving and serving the poor and middle class people via
week end free , street open markets in rural ares , still in urban
areas too. It is very hard to believe how this can survive
together with the globalised super market closed marketing system
.The end of this ruralized economy in urban areas is the reason for
the increased violence , terror and all need to pay very hard to
have the balance.
Thanking you
Yours
Pannirselvam
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:22:29 -0800 (PST), Kirk McLoren
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recall my daughter researching cow gestation. I
> think there is a 3 week spread between the breeds.
>
> Kirk
>
> --- Kim & Garth Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I live in the middle of nowhere and yes, we do see
> > this all the time. No
> > one walks anywhere, no bicycles, very few
> > motorcycles. They drive 25 miles
> > to the city daily for whatever, even if they do not
> > work. Many who live
> > here drive 150+ miles a day to work and back.
> >
> > Me, I go to town once a week, in my Volks TDI. I
> > did look at getting a
> > motorcycle, but the animal feed ect. just doesn't
> > fit. Eventually we hope
> > to lower the amount we are spending off farm, but it
> > takes time and effort
> > to build the place, improve the soil and keep
> > everything done. Being self
> > sufficient is really hard to set up. For example,
> > right now I have to buy
> > milk and milk products because my cow is almost 2
> > weeks overdue to have her
> > calf. I did have some milk in the freezer, but we
> > ran out. Mother Nature
> > makes this lifestyle an art, not a science. I have
> > read books like 5 acres
> > and independence, but they obviously did not have a
> > Jersey cow.
> >
> > The biggest problem I have found it that local
> > economy is so
> > expensive. They expect you to pay dearly for the
> > privilege of buying
> > locally, to the tune of double what I can pay 25
> > miles away.
> >
> > Worse than that, the local produce store carries
> > Californian oranges, not
> > the Texas or Louisiana oranges that I get a Walmart.
> > [I am in east
> > Texas] We have nothing produced locally that is
> > sold locally. The high
> > gas prices have had little effect on the lifestyle.
> >
> > Most people who have moved here from the city have
> > no interest in doing for
> > themselves. Less than 10% of the homes have
> > gardens, and this in a place
> > where gardening year round is easy. The reality of
> > today makes it hard to
> > believe that any 'new urbanism' is going to be an
> > improvement.
> >
> > Bright Blessings,
> > Kim
> >
> > At 12:51 PM 2/24/2005, you wrote:
> > >I think the reason the film spoke of "new urbanism"
> > as one possible result
> > >(not solution) is that a possible trouble with
> > moving further out is that
> > >unless you can provide all of your own
> > goods/services (which most can
> > >not), the increased distance will require MORE not
> > less transportation
> > >(and hence more energy). High density living
> > facilitates a
> > >reduction/concentration of transportation, and also
> > enables the use of
> > >higher efficiency transportation methods (mass
> > transit for individuals,
> > >trains for goods, etc).
> > >_
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