Thanks Keith, for clarifying. In many ways, my farming methods are intensive but sustainable - more output than inputs, soil becoming richer with each passing year rather than being depleted, etc. But on the whole, I am not hopeful all said and done. In my country we have some of the oldest rainforests in the world and recently 2000 acres was cleared by a friend of mine to start an organic sustainable farm to produce vegetables, fruits, meat for export.
Regards HS --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But there are many kinds of intensive farming that > are fully > sustainable and not at all inhumane. Eg, the French > Intensive methods > used by John Jeavons, or the traditional Chinese > farming system still > used all over Southeast Asia and elsewhere, top name > but two. Factory > farming is not described by saying it is intensive. > > >In Asia, even small farms are generally intensive. > > The smaller they are the more intensive they tend to > be, and the > bigger they are (as with farms everywhere) the less > productive they > are. > > >I > >have seen some small free-range poultry farms where > >chickens and ducks are given about 2 to 3 sq ft of > >space per bird, in an enclosed yard. That's > >intensive. > > If that's all they do, just raise poultry by itself, > a specialised > operation not in association with other types of > crop production, ie > a monocrop, then this does approach factory farming. > > >Off the ground, in sheds, the birds > >generally have 1.2 sq ft of space per bird. Put in > >ventilation, the space is reduced to 0.75sq ft. > >Farms like this are purpose-build for viral > mutation > >and clearly non-sustainable in all sense of the > word. > > I fully agree. > > >What is non-intensive? I have grown pastured > chickens > >on the same piece of land for 7 years now and have > no > >disease outbreak in that time. I give each bird 20 > sq > >ft of land, and move them every couple of weeks. > > > >Of cos, the other issue we have to address is that > if > >we all start non-intensive farms, we will soon run > out > >of land, which will bring up a new set of problems > >altogether. > > That's not so. There's no room for industrialised > agriculture of any > kind, for any reason: take it away, along with the > so-called "crops" > it produces (commodities meant for trade, not food > meant to be eaten > by people), and there's plenty of room. > Regards, HS Wong Visit my farm: www.dqcleanchicken.com Find out about the most important chicken: www.junglefowl.org You can contribute to sustainability: www.sustainablelivingcentre.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/