And if you dumped the power into a resistor (heater) you would get twice as much heat as the fireplace.
"Alt.EnergyNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind generator regards tallex Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net -------Original Message------- > From: "Kirk McLoren" > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] hydrogen fire place > Sent: 25 Apr 2005 21:01:21 > > If your electrolyzer is 50% efficient then half the power is lost. I guess > they are thinking they can make hydrogen in the daytime and burn it at night. > A battery and a heatpump would be enormously more efficient. > > Michael Redler wrote:OK, I did some poking around and had a little trouble > finding a Watt-hr/BTU value for hydrogen production using electrolysis. > > Does anyone have a link with some stats? > > Mike > > Kirk McLoren wrote: > Supplemental oxygen is mandatory in an unvented heater in most cases. > Otherwise the oxygen level would get very low. Most ventless heaters are > cycling on their low oxygen sensor as a result. Ventless heaters are cheap, > thus the appeal. They are not of much use north of say Georgia. Besides, low > oxygen levels are a VERY BAD idea. > > Kirk > > "Alt.EnergyNetwork" wrote: > > > Hi all, > This is interesting - a hydrogen fireplace. Uses standard > electrolysis of water. > You still have to use electricity for it to work so it is definately > not free heat but it doesn't need any venting so it can be easily installed. > Company states output at around 31,000 btu's. > It is a pretty simple idea so I expect it won't be long before quite > a few clones will be available. > Certainly doesn't help solve the energy crisis though it will burn > clean and has the option of adding the oxygen to the room air. > > The world's first hydrogen-burning fireplace launches next generation > of hearth products > > http://www.heatnglo.com/news/pressrelease.asp?id=33 > > > > Get your daily alternative energy news > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid > > news resources forums > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy > > > > Alternative Energy Politics > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ > > > Alternate Energy Resource Network > 1000+ news sources resources > updated daily > http://www.alternate-energy.net > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -------Original Message------- _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
