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>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>From: "Darryl McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:10:52 -0500
>Subject: [biofuel] (Fwd) Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: MIT study skeptical 
>about fuel ce
>Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>
>Sorry, slip of the fingers prevented delivery on first attempt.
>
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>From:                  "Darryl McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date sent:             Tue, 1 Apr 2003 10:03:30 -0500
>Subject:               Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: MIT study skeptical 
>about fuel cell vehicles
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>"groundhogsteve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
><snip>
> > My overall view is that there is no one "energy solution".  It is a
> > series of small incremental solutions that cover specific situations.
>
>Agreed.
>
> > I see fuel cells using hydrolysis from renewables as one part.
>
>For some reality on fuel cell potential in transport sector, see:
>http://www.econogics.com/ev/fcevreal.htm
>
> > I see conservation as a big part still
>
>Absolutely.
><snip>
>
> > The first "beta" version of fuel cell cars are in the customer's
> > hands in California and Japan.  The first 30 busses are being
> > demonstrated in Europe.  All the fuel cell companies are being really
> > secretive about where they are on platinum loading reduction and the
> > overall cost curve.  Ballard is actually out selling real fuel cells,
> > not demonstration ones.  So I think they will be coming into the
> > mainstream within 5 years.
>
>Don't hold your breath.  Government-funded buses and automakers PR cars do
>not constitute a solution.
>
>Darryl McMahon


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