Hello Jerry
Doesn't make a damn to me who said it....its just plain good ole advise.
Is it really. Unless you can tell them why it ain't so, that makes
you a xenophobe, in the expressed view of several American list
members. That's okay by you too?
Let's have a look. It starts like this:
Robin William's plan. (Hard to argue with this
logic!)
No it's not, and I don't see a lot of logic.
For a start, it would cause great outrage because it would hurt so
many innocent people, probably most of them Americans.
Sure, dump the Saudis, or the Saudi Royal Family anyway, about time
too, having propped them up militarily and every other way for so
long and helped them crush any move towards democracy the Saudi
people might try to make. The Saudis would like that. So would Osama
Bin Laden, it would make his day.
But it might not be so easy for the US to shop elsewhere for the oil.
You could try competing with China and India and so on to get a good
price. Maybe there won't be long gas-station queues all over the US
and lots of loud squealing, but don't bank on it. The Saudis prop you
up as much as you prop them up. Why do you think they're so chummy
with the White House?
You could stop throwing away all that foreign aid you waste trying to
help basket-case 3rd World countries that can't or won't help
themselves and hate you anyway. But only 0.1% of the US budget goes
on foreign aid, a much lower proportion than many other
industrialised countries, and unlike more advanced countries it's
tied aid, closely tied to US interests. It's mostly Americans that
benefit, as intended. There are arguments that the recipient nations
might be better off without it anyway, or at least their people would
be, if not their rulers and elites. They wouldn't cry a lot if the
US-backed multilateral agencies like the World Bank and the IMF and
the WTO left too, along with their neo-liberal policies that turn
over whole economies to Western-based corporate interests to plunder.
Would you stop exporting arms? Including landmines? Close the School
of the Americas? Stop the Drug War in Columbia? (Then what would your
spies use for finance?)
And the Arctic Refuge oil will be sold on the market anyway and most
of it will probably end up in Japan.
It's a pity the world isn't as simple as it should be, but that's the
fact. Pity about facts too. Pity that all the things you're
complaining about - "plain good ole advise" [sic] - are cause for
complaint mainly because they're side-effects of Americans pretending
things are as simple as they should be. Like Bin Laden, for example.
It was your spies who set him up in business, he used to work for
you. Your spies and the Saudi royals "caused" him. If you sow
dragon's teeth you raise a crop of dragons. The relations between his
family and the Bush family aren't very simple either, you should
check it out, you'll really hate it.
Hate, eh? They hate America. The huge majorities in most countries
that give America the finger these days all hate Americans. Some of
them do no doubt, they're only human after all, they don't like it
when you bomb their children and so on, but IMO most of them don't
hate you, they BLAME you. They blame you for not being all the
wonderful things you think you are and claim to be, the world's
beacon of freedom and democracy, the defender of rights and justice.
They blame you for being the opposite of those things. They want to
know why you let it happen and what you're going to do about it, and
when. Simple questions. Have you got any simple answers?
Sure you've got excuses, you've been bombed out for 90 years by the
mother of all industrial-duty spin campaigns stirring up fear and
loathing and using it as a goad to herd you into a narrow and
simplistic world, to send you to sleep and give you a bad dream. But
if that's an excuse then why is it so many Americans aren't asleep at
all, they're wide awake, they're saying the same things all the
foreigners who hate you are saying, and they're saying it louder?
Message-massage is no excuse. You shouldn't have let that happen
either, it's not as if you didn't know any better, you did know
better, you still do, but you're still letting it happen. Who owns
your media these days? Why is it so concentrated? But you're free?
LOL! So what exactly is your excuse?
Much as I love you (everybody does really), you're a sorry bunch of
mugs with your cringeing and whingeing. America the Brave. Why don't
you pull your fingers out?
Go ahead and attack me if you like, it's your prerogative. But if you
want your barbs to hit home, take note that I'm not an American. I
don't have a country, I don't even have a home - it's one world,
home's where I hang my hat, and that suits me just fine. And I don't
have a hat either. The list's the same, it's a global village on the
worldwide Internet, no home, no country. So talk to us in those terms
or don't waste your time.
The rest of you 'Merkins are wide awake at least. Maybe it'll even be
enough to take your country back and save the world. Or maybe it
doesn't need that many anyway: "Never underestimate the power of a
small group of individuals to change the world. In fact, it is the
only thing that ever has," said Margaret Mead.
Whatever, make it FAST!
Best wishes
Keith
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alt.EnergyNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...
What a load of bull.
I sincerely doubt that "the Robin Williams"
was the author of the xenophobic rant below.
tallex
-------Original Message-------
> From: "Jerry Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...
> Sent: 05 Jun 2005 03:42:17
>
> AMEN!!!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> FROM: Michael Redler
> TO: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> SENT: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:27 PM
> SUBJECT: Re: [Biofuel] Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...
>
> Why do all the xenophobic emails end with:
>
> "If you agree with the above forward it to a
> friend...If not, and I would be amazed, DELETE it !!!!!"
>
> ....as if the third choice (spreading this email with a description of
> what it really is) is not an option.
>
> After watching "Patch Adams", I have to believe that there is another
> Robin Williams who wrote this trash.
>
> Be amazed Lisa...be very amazed!
>
> Mike
>
> _LISA SIMPSON _ wrote:
> You gotta love Robin Williams... Leave it to Robin
> Williams to come up with the perfect plan .. what we
> need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and
> repeat this message.
>
> Robin William's plan. (Hard to argue with this
> logic!)
>
> I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have
> not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.
>
> 1.) The US will apologize to the world for our
> "interference" in their affairs, past &present. You
> know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic and
> the rest of those 'good ole boys,' We will never
> "interfere" again.
>
> 2.) We will withdraw our troops from all over the
> world, starting with Germany, South Korea and the
> Philippines. They don't want us there. We would
> station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through
> holes in the fence.
>
> 3.) All illegal aliens have 90 da! ys to get their
> affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free
> trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be
> gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of
> who or where they are. France would welcome them.
>
> 4.) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked
> and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit.
> No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in.
> If you don't like it there, change it yourself and
> don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to
> anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11
> cashiers.
>
> 5.) No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones
> are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they
> get a "D" and it's back home baby.
>
> 6.) The US will make a strong effort to become
> self-sufficient energy wise.
> This will include developing nonpolluting sources of
> energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil
> in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to
> cope for a while.
>
> 7.) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing
> countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't
> like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere
> else to sell their production. (About a week of the
> wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)
>
> 8.) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe
> in the world, we will not "interfere," They can pray
> to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or
> whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them
> is stolen or given to the army. The people who need
> it most get very little, if anything.
>
> 9.) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island
> some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather
> friends here. Besides, the building would make a good
> homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.
>
> 10.) All Americans must go to charm and beauty
> school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans"
> any longer. The Language we speak is
> ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a
> winner of a plan.
>
> "The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me
> your poor, your tired, your huddled masses.' She's
> got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'You want a
> piece of me?'"
>
> ~~~If you agree with the above forward it to
> friend...
>
> If not, and I would be amazed, DELETE it !!!!!
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