I worked as an engineer for the Ford / VW Joint Venture in Brazil about 10 years ago, on the production cars running on pure alcohol (well, not really pure -- about 96% ethanol / 4% water and junk).
The cheap cars at the time ran single-point, throttle body injector systems. Even in warm weather, this really pointed to a big difference between ethanol and gasoline. Ethanol vaporizes at a single temperature (around 140F, IIRC) while gasoline contains a range of fractions that vaporize along a curve of temperature, say from 120F to 300F or so. The end result is a liquid puddle of alcohol in the intake manifold of a cold engine that all vaporizes suddenly as the engine warms up past a certain point. Difficult to calibrate for, and you end up with rich engine conditions, stumbling, and high emissions. I would think that even with port fuel injection this effect may manifest itself in cold weather conditions. Probably why you generally see E85 max in the US. -- Rob Northern Michigan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:11 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Brazil's ethanol effort Assuming that the problem in cool conditions is fuel vapourization and mixture formation, I expect that inlet injection (fairly common now) would work, and that if it didn't, direct injection would work. I don't know how ethanol and injection pumps get along, but I think that if there is a problem it could be beaten. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, DERICK GIORCHINO wrote: > I have recently done some reading on the ethanol as a fuel of choice. But it > seems that those in tropical climates have an advantage. It seems that gas > engines run better and start in a hotter climate. And those of us that live > in a varying climate could have some difficulty with ethanol in the colder > time of year. Do you think I am wrong? What is you opinion. [snip] _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/