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Dear Ethanol users,
The below information (re: modifications to car to
run on ethanol) is incorrect in my experience. I live in Brazil and I export
conversion kit (petrol to ethanol) to Australia. Kits in Australia are being
used in both vehicles manufactured by both Holden (GM) and Ford. Here in Brazil
the kits are used in Fiats, VW's, GM's, Ford's, Nissan, Honda's, etc, etc. with
NO modifications; that is on MULTI POINT fuel injection vehicles. These included
4, 6 and 8 cylinder cars.
There is no need to increase the compression of
petrol engines vehicles produced in the past 5 years or so. The new engines in
car produced today have higher compression ratings than in the past. Not as high
as the flex power engines, but higher than previous petrol engines.
There will be a need to change the fuel pump at
some stage (2 to 5 years) as the ethanol corrodes the copper used on the bushes
of the pump. The ethanol pumps use graphite instead of copper, and silver wires
instead of copper wires. It costs about US$ 50.
There are over 100,000 petrol vehicles in Brazil
which have been fitted with kits to allow them to run on 100% ethanol or any
mixture of petrol / ethanol; and I am not referring to the ` flex-powered
vehicles' being manufactured by Ford, Gm, Fiat, VW, etc. I am referring to after
market installed kits.
I wouldn't bother trying to change a carburetor
based engine, these engines were always a hassle for cold starting even here in
Brasil where it is quite warm (compared to Canada) all year round, and where the
big car amnufacturers here producing 100's of thousands of units. The conversion
kits can come with small ptrol tanks (1 litre) which is used for cold
starting.
Skipper
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:19
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian
Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?
Hey Robert Luis, thank you very much for your answer man!!!! Now I
understand the implications of ethanol. Until next.
Luis
Eduardo Puerto wrote:
>
>
> I don't know very much of
E85 or E100, I know that in Brazil it is
> being produced in big
quantities as well as in USA. I don't know
> where exactly you can get
it in Canada.
It's not available here, at least on the west coast. We
have a
company that blends a small percentage of ethanol into its
gasoline,
but I'm sure it's no better than E 10.
> I have a
question, for what
> type of cars is etahnol appropriate??? Can it be
used with any car
> at all??
Any car that runs gasoline
will be able to use ethanol. Older models
require replacing rubber parts
in the fuel system, changes to the
carburetor jets, and some sort of
fuel preheating device for cold
weather. Newer, fuel injected vehicles
sold in North America may have
ethanol resistant parts from the factory,
but cannot run ethanol
blends greater than 50% without changes to the
injector pulse width.
This makes ethanol conversion more difficult for
the average person.
> I know that biodiesel only suits diesel
engines with no
> modification required, but the ethanol I don't know
its
> implications. If anybody can explain it to me I will be glad to
know.
Unlike biodiesel, the fuel system in a gasoline engine MUST be
modified to run ethanol. It would also be helpful to increase
compression pressure by some means, if ethanol will be the primary
fuel.
robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
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Mind
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Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
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