Thank you! That was the first message in this thread I found worth
saving for future reference. Too much out there, (government, business
and religion) has propagated the illusion of separation, competition and
isolation... We could easily forget that we do all come from the same
Source, sad to say though, that when mankind tries to give that Source a
name, religion develops, and separation of our unity follows.
doug swanson
Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote:
Hallo Whomever,
Sunday, 31 July, 2005, 18:03:48, you wrote:
Wwrc> In poor taste. Maybe even mean spirited. God must Love you better than
Wwrc> us RED NECKS. Oh, that's right, you don't believe "In GOD We Trust".
"In poor taste. Maybe even mean spirited."? I assume that you have
NEVER listened to Rush Limbaugh or his ilk then? Jerry Falwell? Pat
Robertson?
"In GOD We Trust"? The qualifier "Somewhat" does not appear there
between "We" and "Trust". Those trusting in God are those rejecting
the ways of the world and following the ways of the Lord. That would
be those in peace churches and not involving themselves in national
politics and perhaps not even state politics. I assume you mean "In
the bible we trust" instead, with the caveat of your own particular
interpretations of that and including the old testament which has,
according to virtually all biblical scholars of the Christian bent
been fulfilled and the jots and tittles have been changed.
It is very interesting watching the contortions of the theologians
trying to make the black words in the bible match up to the red words
when they flatly contradict them in so many cases. If they trusted in
God they would have the ability to get to their knowledge without the
aid of such an inadequate medium as the written word. It is not so
interesting watching them pulling verses or partial verses out of
context and trying to warp them to their own particular beliefs. They
would rather define truth to match their own limited understanding
rather than take the trouble to bring their understanding in line with
truth. Makes one ill.
I generally attempt to be more kind in my observations but I really
get weary watching people serving two masters while claiming to be
serving only one. That which is good, right and true speaks for
itself and the rest requires justification. There are a lot of
"Christians" who are going to be justifying their heads off and a lot
who don't call themselves Christian who won't need to do so. Law vs
Spirit. There are a lot of folks out there who may have read but have
either forgotten or do not understand MT 25:12, LK 13:25, LK 13:27 and
JN 5:42. Perhaps they just think claiming to believe something is
tautologous with demonstrating the fruits of the belief. Fruits?
GAL 5:22. You won't find a lot of those fruits in politics whether
left, right or center.
Before I forget: MT 7:3-5
There is a great difference between reading the words and knowing what
they mean, understanding them. Living them is even more difficult. I
have failed somewhat in this unkind mail but am prepared to live
and/or die with the consequences of my actions and without excuses or
justification. I hope all those upholding life with one hand and
activily participating in or concurring with the dealing out of death
with the other are just as ready. Blue or red or whatever shade.
Happy Happy,
Gustl
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