Hello Doug, Keith, ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cornell on ethanol, biodiesel, & hydrogen energyefficiencies
> >In the article, Pimentel is shown pumping gas, most likely plain old > >regular unleaded gas... :) Pimentel seems to be not only pumping gas but pumping for the gas industry as a whole. > >And it crossed my mind, "How much energy was used to provide a > >gallon of plain old regular unleaded gas, considering all the energy > >consumed, not only in drilling and pumping crude, cleaning, > >separating, transporting, etc., but how much energy did the dinosaur > >consume, in the way of food, how much energy did earth processes > >contribute, in the way of pressures and time frames, etc. And how > >much energy would be consumed to convert a modern-day dinosaur (sort > >of in short supply) into that same gallon of gas? Consider the food > >he'd be eating, the fossil fuel based pesticides I'd have to use on > >the food source for Dino, etc... " More likely you will end up with a lot of hot flue gas and some irritaing particulates, on combustion of this dino fuel. LOL. > >Yeah, sort of silly, but probably worth a government grant to study. > >doug swanson > > :-) > > Sorry to cavil, but dino-fuel is not made from dead dinosaurs as > sometimes alleged. It comes from dead forests that grew in the same > era, or round about then anyway. Just a clarification. There is evidence to suggest that the bulk of the liquid and gaseous hydrocarbons is derived from marine plankton, both phytoplankton and zoo plankton. Dead forest largely form the basis of bituminous coal. There is also substantial work iniitiated by the Russians and Ukrainians (and rarely reported in the West until recently) of an abyssal, abiogenic origin of petroleum, which postulates a co-eval formation of primordial petroleum with earth about 4.5 bollion years back,much earlier than the conventional era of the dinosaurs, > Dinosaurs are not currently in short supply, Mike just named one, > Monsanto, others would be ADM, Cargill, and ExxonMobil, Shell, BP and > so on - Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Ag, and why not chuck in Big > Government too, hey. There's a large meteorite headed their way > though, so maybe they should all be on the endangered species list, > only they've helped send so many other species there that I don't > think there's any room left for them. > > Regards > > Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
