Hello Tim

Keith,

You're saying Ebay picks and chooses which of its own rules to follow
and when?

I'm saying what I said. I won't extrapolate from only one case, though it's unlikely to be the only such case. Whatever, it surely contradicts your conjecture over copyright.

Perhaps so but if that is the case, at least we know it is
Ebay doing the suppressing unless you think they are getting squeezed by
"someone."

I could imagine them succumbing to political pressure over the cards, even in advance of any such pressure, they wouldn't be the first, and otherwise I could imagine them not giving a damn.

I'm a bit puzzled by your ongoing questions about foreign "aid". I believe it's been pointed out that there's a lot of info in the list archives on this subject, and then I posted a whole lot more, and you seem to ignore it. Why so, if you're genuinely interested? Or are you just trolling?

Keith



Thanks for the advice to delete irrelevant material.

Tim Schlueter

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

>Why are these cards banned on Ebay?  Perhaps it has to do with this
>statement from Ebay:
>
>"Only copyright owners are permitted to sell items or products which
>are intended to be delivered to the buyer by electronic download
>through the Internet. Sellers who own the copyrights to this
>downloadable media being sold must state this fact in their listings
>and must be able to prove this ownership to eBay."
>
>In other words, the reason for the ban may have to do with copyright
>legalities as opposed to some sort of governmentally imposed
>restriction, which the statement below leads one to believe.
>
>Tim

:-) Believe the small print if you like.

Quite a regular item offered on eBay is this:

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/z/woh1.j
pg

Taken directly from our site, the description also taken directly
from our site, and offered as original plans for sale at $20 or
something similar. It was JtF who resurrected these plans, but, as
acknowledged, the copyright belongs to Mother Earth News, but there's
zero acknowledgement of either JtF or MEN. Try telling eBay about it
- I got exactly nowhere, and neither did several other people.

Please trim irrelevant previous material from your posts Tim, you're
wasting tons of bandwidth. Thankyou.

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
KYOTO Pref., Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Biofuel list owner



>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:08 AM
>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country
>
>Hakan wrote:
>Wonder from which industries they are coming?
>
>Hakan, at the following website you can see their backgrounds
>by looking at each card in a card game that shows backgrounds
>of people working with the administration:
>
>http://www.ruckus.org/warprofiteers/
>
>Each suit in the deck represents a category:
>            Oil, gas, and energy companies
>            US government officials
>            Military and defense contractors
>            Heads of industry, finance, media, policy, and hype
>
>Go here to select each category to find information on each
>person
>http://www.ruckus.org/warprofiteers/cards/index.html
>
>The sale of the card game has been banned on ebay
>
>To see a little about Cheney's background with Halliburton see
>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/22/60minutes/printabl
>e595214.shtml
>Doing Business With The Enemy       Jan. 25, 2004
>
>Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and other neoconservatives were
>part of the Project for the New American Century plan to invade
>Iraq in 1997. They tried to get Clinton interested, but failed. They
>didn't fail with Bush. See their names on the statement of
>principles at:
>http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
>

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