Hi Again Robert; Since you brought up the parallels between fiction and reality one of my favorite scifi series was Dune by Frank Herbert. Many have speculated that the spice was a metaphor for petroleum and there are many interesting similarities between events in the plot and what happens in this world with power struggles and the petroleum industry. It seems that the majority of people in my society think that there is no problem on the horizon but of the ones who do recongnize it, they fall into two groups. One group says well we should do something to help the situation by preserving the oil try to prolong the time that we have with it and do things to reduce our demand for it. These are by far the majority of this small fraction of society. But then there is a small fraction of that fraction who are so radical they remind me of the Muad Dib character from the Dune novels who sought to destroy the spice trade and plunge the empire into darkness. These guys say things like ok then let's get on with it. Let's drive our gas guzzlers and throw away our plastic and consume consume consume until it is all gone, then the sooner we can deal with it, the sooner we can come out the other side and be better off in the long run. Here you are the lone guy who is driving vegetarian sitting at a table full of your peers all of whom are living the petrolifestyle, extolling the virtues of sustainability, feilding questions about running a diesel engine on garbage from the kitchen of the very bar who's patio you are lounging on, pint in hand, feeling like you are riding the wave of positivity, and suddenly wise ass colleague number one (who just bought a truck with a big V8) comes out with that BS? What do you say to that? Talk about a show stopper. What cruel irony is it that people can be dumb enough to swallow the whole consumerism lie hook line and sinker, and then suddenly sprout brains enough to take the wind right out of your sustainability sails? Sheesh. I wasn't prepared for that one. Don't you love those moments when everybody is looking at you and all you can do is sit there with your jaw hanging open? Well gas is staying over a buck a liter it seems. I can't wait till I run into him in the hall and I can laugh and say consume consume consume. Joe robert luis rabello wrote: Joe Street wrote:Hi Robert et al; Rising energy costs and the secondary effects of that will force a tremendous change on our wasteful style of living. After it is all over and the new stable system has settled down things will look very different. During the transition people who are currently in denial will be forced into a brutal reality therapy.I watched "A Band of Brothers" recently and am reminded of a scene in which an American Airborne officer enters a German house with the intent of looting. He sees the framed photograph of a Nazi officer, which he drops on the floor and proceeds to grind with the heel of his boot. In walks the well dressed, well fed, matronly woman of the house, replete with a haughty _expression_. She stares the officer down and he leaves.In the next scene, this same officer walks into a local "work camp" housing many men who are near death from starvation. The American commander has "recruited" assistance from the nearby village in collecting and burying the dead, people who have denied any knowledge of the camp. (My saintly mother in law, who lived in Germany during the war, also tells me she and her family knew nothing of the atrocities going on around them. But she, a Sabbatarian, was beaten for not attending school on Saturday. She has no love or sympathy for Nazis.) This Airborne officer walks into the camp and sees a woman struggling to loosen a corpse from the pile. This woman is the same one he saw earlier, in her home, but now the haughty _expression_ has been replaced by one of horror, as the reality of the situation beyond her comfortable existence overwhelms her consciousness. (She uttered not a word in either scene, but the actress playing that role portrayed the change beautifully.) Likewise, the social paradigm which we enjoy in North America (and maybe Europe, too) will come to an end. All the denial in the world will not suffice to smooth the harsh reality of that day. Part of me feels like those who engage in denial deserve the suffering they will endure, while another part grieves for the hardship my countrymen must face for the arrogance and lack of leadership overflowing from the Congress and Executive. We have been well trained as consumers. Many of us know no other way, and the generation that survived the Great Depression is dying off as we write.And there will be a war.Indeed . . . The roots of the new conflict originate in the ashes of WWII.What happens during this time will surely be chaotic because those with thier heads in the sand right now will not accept change willingly, but as for the nuclear arsenal I think its real value is in the deterent aspect. That was why I used the grenade inside a closed room analogy. Even if things get really bad economically and the house of cards comes down, I like to believe that although people can be selfish, greedy, arrogant....(insert your favorite insult here) ....all of those self serving iterests also serve NOT letting off one of those firecrackers. They are only for show. (I hope).I would like to believe you, but I don't. Nothing fundamental has changed in human nature since we first developed nuclear weapons. There are very powerful and influential people in the United States who believe that we have to fight and WIN (is that possible?) a nuclear conflict. The proliferation of thermonuclear weapons around the world may serve as impetus for continuing the development of the "next generation" weapons. We have used them in anger once. I honestly believe we will use them again, especially if those in power feel threatened. I would far prefer having a man in office who has actually seen combat and knows about suffering in battle, than the megalomaniac with limited capacity for understanding we have now. Someone like our current president, who BELIEVES he is directing the nation according to God's will and has no compunction against inflicting suffering on other people, has already utilized the power of our military in a preemptive manner. Raise the stakes higher and I don't see any means of restraining him, nor the others who advocate force as a solution to our foreign policy problems.Your comments on hyperinflation are well founded and well taken. I have been considering the investment in a photovoltaic system and have started to consider that although the cost is almost prohibitive at this time just imagine what the asking price for alternatives will become when the restructuring hits!That's why we have to look into these things NOW. I'm learning how to build an engine management computer that will enable me to program any internal combustion engine to run well on different fuels. I'd really like to do ethanol, but I may end up using producer gas because the raw materials for gasification are abundant where I live, and doing so will not run me into difficulty with Canada's duly elected authorities! Methanol would be nice, as liquid fuels are far easier to handle, and it burns very well in an internal combustion engine. (Whoo hoo! Crank up the boost! Detonation? What detonation?) Thus far, however, people far more clever than I have not been able to find a backyard solution to methanol production.It may be that the window of opportunity for that type of investment is about to close (for the average joe). And the question of worth begins to take a radical turn as you pointed out. What will become the new controlling economy once oil and its derivatives are out of reach? Consider what results when massive unemployment collides with massive debt. Those SUV's that people cannot unload, will they get reposessed? Along with the 2500 sq ft houses that are suddenly unaffordable? And if so who are the banks going to sell them to?This was the gist of the NY Times article on peak oil that the "economist" my sister quoted responded to.Your eldest sister may be able to hang on for longer than most but unless she invests in a strategy that gives her some degree of independance it will run out at some point. If the economy could be restarted she may weather it, but suppose the house of cards cannot be rebuit because it has been sitting on a foundation of cheap energy which no longer exists and will never return? She will be the latecomer to this list.If she hasn't been listening to me for the last 30 years (and trust me, she hasn't), she won't listen then, either. The easier solution is to impose America's military might on the resource rich regions of the world. If Canada won't give up her tar sands, we will see American troops in Alberta to "restore order". (Those pesky Albertans, with their wind turbines of mass destruction!) We will pay for this, dearly . . .Enough doom and gloom already.That's why I have a garden. Plants are among the most optimistic creatures of God's creation and serve to keep everything in perspective. My boys and I picked several liters of black currants this morning. We have two boxes of peaches awaiting full ripening on the patio. The blackberries are bursting with fruit right now. Some of the sweetest strawberries I've ever eaten have come from our planter boxes this year. We've had delicious corn, succulent beets and more purple beans and zucchini than we can eat. (Our freezer is stuffed FULL already!) Compost, sweat, sunlight and water are all my garden requires. robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ |
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