Mattew 16:? Have to go to church in my SUV. Bye now.
Ian Hodgson wrote: > Your so right tallex, I would add people of concience need to become > more outspoken more public more active if we are to win the wars. > > What wars I think the first war is the battle to save humanity, we > need to sway the mind of MR/MRS Average from that of the self > endulgent self centered consumerist. To people who live value centered > lives. Then maybe we (the people of the western world) will not be so > willing to be bought off by all the things that affect our bottom line > ie interest rates and tax cuts, infaltion figures. > > When we are given the price of alternative energies for example, > they(politicians) speak as though the environment is at thier disposal > to either take into account or not, when your at the accountants you > are not allowed to say "don't include the cost of that" yet Bush and > my Prime Minister John Howard seem to think they have a right to do > that just by, for example, ignoring the Kyoto treaty. > > The bible says what shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world > but lose his own soul. > I believe we are in the middle of a great irony we are loosing our > souls in an attempt to gain the world but the irony is who will want > to live in this world after the worst of humanities greed has finished > with it. > > So the first war is for the hearts of the people, then the second war > (to save the plannet) can be won. > > So what am I trying to say, in a nuthell some should be ativists for > their beliefs, some should even be prepared to be jailed, some should > be educators some letterwritters to papers and some talk on radio some > should talk to their children parents relatives and guide them, all > should be true to what they know is right and be themselves, and I > think if enough people do things like that , maybe enough people will > stop voting with thier wallets so that the big changes that we all > need can actually happen. > > regards > > Ian > > > */"Alt.EnergyNetwork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > Big deal, > He cut 2 days off his vacation to do this > ...all for the cameras. As noted by others below, he was the one who > cut army core of engineers budget > for urgent repair on sinking dykes and improvements to flood > control systems. > > He is the one who continues to distort sound science, the problems > of global warming and weakening the environmental protection act. > As mentioned by others as well, he is the one who has troops, vital > rescue equipment in Iraq when needed here NOW. > The lack of a well planned rapid advanced response to this > disaster is a shame. > There are many hard questions that will need answers in the months > to come. > > > > regards > tallex > > Alternate Energy Resource Network > 1000+ news sources-resources > updated daily > http://www.alternate-energy.net > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Greg and April > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How New Orleans Was Lost > > Sent: 03 Sep '05 03:33 > > > > He spent the day on the ground today, walking parts of New > Orleans, and > > Mississippi. > > > > Just like 9/11, it was a few days after it happened. > > > > Greg H. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Weaver" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 20:45 > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How New Orleans Was Lost > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > I personally can't believe all he did was fly by in his jet and look > > down. This is a catastrophe far worse than 9/11 and all he does > is a > > fly by? > > I can't even get started on Iraq because I don't want to get > wound up > > right now. > > > > Hakan Falk wrote: > > > > >Mike, > > > > > >LOL, you did a very good joke, I liked it. > > > > > >Hakan > > > > > >At 16:53 02/09/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Whine whine. At least he caught Osama Bin Laden, just like he > promised. > > >> > > >>Hakan Falk wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Taryn, > > >>> > > >>>You must admit that he killed many more in Iraq for the money, > > >>>he is responsible for those death also, maybe he call that > > >>>efficiency instead. More killed for the money. I can guarantee > > >>>that the pictures of devastated people that we now see from > > >>>Orleans, have been going on for many years in Iraq. So it is > > >>>not only Bush fault, he only raised the bar and achieved much > > >>>more in shorter time frame. > > >>> > > >>>When media show the desperation among the Iraqi people, it > > >>>is not many who cares, maybe Orleans will create more of > > >>>compassion for the country that US occupy. The homes that > > >>>are destroyed and people killed in Iraq, are 100's times more > > >>>than Orleans. > > >>> > > >>>Hakan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>At 08:38 02/09/2005, you wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Wow, nice catch Bede, Fits right in with "is there blame?" > > >>>> > > >>>>I just love to blame stuff on Bush and his cronies. > Except...I'm not > > >>>>sure that all the kings men could have put Orleans together > again. > > >>>> > > >>>>Certainly, having pissed away the country's emergency > resources, Bush > > >>>>is responsible for many of the deaths in La and Ms. Kinda > like stupid > > >>>>kids who empty the fire extinguishers in school. But I > think Katrina, > > >>>>and years of head-in-the-sand development is what drowned > Orleans. > > >>>> > > >>>>taryn > > >>>>http://ornae.com/ > > >>>> > > >>>>On Sep 1, 2005, at 9:16 PM, Bede wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10062.htm > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>How New Orleans Was Lost > > >>>>> > > >>>>>By Paul Craig Roberts > > >>>>> > > >>>>>09/01/05 "Antiwar" -- -- Chalk up the city of New Orleans > as a cost of > > >>>>>Bush's Iraq war. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>There were not enough helicopters to repair the breached > levees and > > >>>>>rescue > > >>>>>people trapped by rising water. Nor are there enough > Louisiana National > > >>>>>Guardsmen available to help with rescue efforts and to > patrol against > > >>>>>looting. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The situation is the same in Mississippi. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The National Guard and helicopters are off on a fool's > mission in Iraq. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The National Guard is in Iraq because fanatical > neoconservatives in > > >>>>>the Bush > > >>>>>administration were determined to invade the Middle East > and because > > >>>>>incompetent Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld refused to listen > to the > > >>>>>generals, > > >>>>>who told him there were not enough regular troops available > to do the > > >>>>>job. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>After the invasion, the arrogant Rumsfeld found out that > the generals > > >>>>>were > > >>>>>right. The National Guard was called up to fill in the > gaping gaps. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Now the Guardsmen, trapped in the Iraqi quagmire, are > watching on TV > > >>>>>the > > >>>>>families they left behind trapped by rising waters and > wondering if the > > >>>>>floating bodies are family members. None know where their > dislocated > > >>>>>families are, but, shades of Fallujah, they do see their > destroyed > > >>>>>homes. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>The mayor of New Orleans was counting on helicopters to put > in place > > >>>>>massive > > >>>>>sandbags to repair the levee. However, someone called the few > > >>>>>helicopters > > >>>>>away to rescue people from rooftops. The rising water > overwhelmed the > > >>>>>massive pumping stations, and New Orleans disappeared under > deep water. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>What a terrible casualty of the Iraqi war one of our > oldest and most > > >>>>>beautiful cities, a famous city, a historic city. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Distracted by its phony war on terrorism, the U.S. > government had made > > >>>>>no > > >>>>>preparations in the event Hurricane Katrina brought > catastrophe to New > > >>>>>Orleans. No contingency plan existed. Only now after the > disaster are > > >>>>>FEMA > > >>>>>and the Corps of Engineers trying to assemble the material and > > >>>>>equipment to > > >>>>>save New Orleans from the fate of Atlantis. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Even worse, articles in the New Orleans Times-Picayune and > public > > >>>>>statements > > >>>>>by emergency management chiefs in New Orleans make it clear > that the > > >>>>>Bush > > >>>>>administration slashed the funding for the Corps of Engineers' > > >>>>>projects to > > >>>>>strengthen and raise the New Orleans levees and diverted > the money to > > >>>>>the > > >>>>>Iraq war. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson > Parish, told > > >>>>>the > > >>>>>New Orleans Times-Picayune (June 8, 2004): "It appears that > the money > > >>>>>has > > >>>>>been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland > security and > > >>>>>the war > > >>>>>in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody > locally is > > >>>>>happy that > > >>>>>the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything > we can to > > >>>>>make the > > >>>>>case that this is a security issue for us." > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Why can't the U.S. government focus on America's needs and > leave other > > >>>>>countries alone? Why are American troops in Iraq instead of > protecting > > >>>>>our > > >>>>>own borders from a mass invasion by illegal immigrants? Why are > > >>>>>American > > >>>>>helicopters blowing up Iraqi homes instead of saving > American homes in > > >>>>>New > > >>>>>Orleans? > > >>>>> > > >>>>>How can the Bush administration be so incompetent as to expose > > >>>>>Americans at > > >>>>>home to dire risks by exhausting American resources in > foolish foreign > > >>>>>adventures? What kind of "homeland security" is this? > > >>>>> > > >>>>>All Bush has achieved by invading Iraq is to kill and wound > thousands > > >>>>>of > > >>>>>people while destroying America's reputation. The only > beneficiaries > > >>>>>are oil > > >>>>>companies capitalizing on a good excuse to jack up the price of > > >>>>>gasoline and > > >>>>>Osama bin Laden's recruitment. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>What we have is a Republican war for oil company profits > while New > > >>>>>Orleans > > >>>>>sinks beneath the waters. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>>>Biofuel mailing list > > >>>>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > >>>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > >>>>>biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >>>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives > (50,000 > > >>>>>messages): > > >>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>>Biofuel mailing list > > >>>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > > >>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or > > g > > >>>> > > >>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > >>>> > > >>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>list archives (50,000 messages): > > >> > > >> > > >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>>_______________________________________________ > > >>>Biofuel mailing list > > >>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > > >>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > >>> > > >>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > >>> > > >>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz > > >>> > > >>> > > >>list archives (50,000 messages): > > >> > > >> > > >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Biofuel mailing list > > >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > > >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > >> > > >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > >> > > >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > messages): > > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Biofuel mailing list > > >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > messages): > > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives > (50,000 messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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