Here in Brasil we have E95 running and this can be impoted to any country who wish to develop and adopt the same in other country as well as flexivel ethanol and gasoline car
We need to come out here in this list here to arrive ata a simple workable design and then there are several university , Ghandhi gram rural university. Madurai south India vice chancellar Dr T.Karunakaran can make it reality as the present central government came to power to suport rural mass.
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Pannirselvam
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On 9/12/05, Manick Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Dr.Pannirselvam/Subramaniam,I read that many small scale enterprises are encouraged in India, with tax exemption. If project funding can be arranged somewhere in Chennai or any other suitable place with proper allowances I could come there to help out in ethanolof ethanol and wood pyrolysis. Or perhaps as special Institute/ College project where we won't be harassed by petty officials out for quick buck. With engines modified to run on E85 and wood spirit.Once project is finished I'll return to Penang.LOLManickhDear Mr. PanneerSelvam,I've been reading your inputs to this forum quite for sometime and your enthusiasm is really contagious! but there are problems for individuals for producing alcohol.The process is simple enough for small scale (back yard) production which you recommend. raw material such as sweet sorghum and sugar beet can be grown ; the economics of production is well known to those in the field. Special strains of sweet sorghum are available in National Research Institutes in Hyderabad, as well as at Indian Institute of Agricultural Research . But.....The moment I announce that I'm going to make my own fuel ( for personal use) half a dozen Govt agencies will raid my place ! Production of ethyl alcohol is not possible without Govt license (which is not easy to get for an individual), payment of several duties and taxes and bribes on the side.Even if the farmers make alcohol on the sly, on second thoughts they would rather drink it than use for fuel. You know the types in India.On the commercial scale Indian Sugar Mills Assocn have half a million litres of surplus ethanol for E05 in the whole country but then the Indian oil corporation is still dragging its feet issuing purchase tenders for ethanol.So these are the ground realities here. Still I keep hoping it will change in due course.Regards,Subramanian"Pannirselvam P.V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Dear Manick
I am native of South India.It is very true that Malaysia and India,the fuel alcohol can be mis used as the drinks. Brazil , where I live now ,here too are making alcohol for local consume and exportation as the alcoholic drinks and fuel made from sugarcane and fruits as both are the needs
In south India where there is always power cut expected more than 30 porcent , locally made distilled home made alcohol, the municipal government can buy and use for transport and power generation. You are showing the real problem of corrupt practice there .Thus local use of ethanol for fuel instead of commercial use can solve the powercut there.This is need decentralised development of municipality.Only private company need to do all , under corrupted some political party not bothered about real problem of energy development.
Based on traditional local home made alcohol , India can produce as much as Brazil (2 bilhoes liter of alcohol for food and fuel) and can solve the energy crisis.The farmer need to put light in the night and make plantation in India where as the farmer from USA, France and Europe has government financial help.
Manick , surely India and can make possible the home made decentralised bio ethanol that thus make using pot , to put in their small motorised bicycle , thus making them independent to get away the poverty and all corrupted petroleum business , which is the root cause of the poverty, making people dependence on imported fuel that they can not pay.
I wish to request Keith to publish via our list members from India about the low cost pot distillation, as this so simple and low cost ,any one can made fuel in their home based on this pot made tradicional alcohol which had made and making making story of so many tragedy and death of alcohol addiction .But this bad story can be made to be real a solution for the energy crysis
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Pannirselvam
On 9/10/05, Manick Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:Tq Chris,My reason for posting is to stimulate interest to convince other group members to undertake ethanol and power generation projects.I am not in a position to do them here in Malaysia or India, countries full of skull-duggering and danger of losing all the investment due to fraudulent practices by the unscrupulous, without recourse to justice. I could give pages and pages of bad business ethics. It is very bad here which is the main reason this country is in languishing the doldrums. The best I can do is to convince members that these concepts are viable and that there is great need to now to find alternatives to petroleum fuels. CheersManickh
Chris lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> hey! i just remembered, homebrew champagne makers are cautioned to make
> sure
that all yeast has been killed before finla bottling, lest continued
fermentation generate so much pressure that it pops the cork. <
That cannot be right as to do so would leave you with flat champagne, you
need the secondary fermentation to make any wine/beer fizzy. Champagne
bottles have their corks wired on anyway. Chris.
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