Even if it were true the chances of it being very slim, you have to
consider how it could be accomplished. One would have to have access
to jet fuel supplies which are controlled and regularly tested. Not
easy. But supposing that as a given, now you have to add your
chemicals at some point downstream of the fuel production and testing
point. Probably the easiest would be close to the point of use but
this would be less adantageous for global distribution of 'the
chemical' and would require operatives on site at each location.
That's a lot of mouths to keep shut. And now the kicker. Your
chemical, carefully formulated to cause it's desired effect, whatever
that may be, must also survive a high pressure high temperature
incinerator (the turbine engine) in order to make it into the conn
trail. Ahhh that's a wee bit of a problem.
But as you say we should never close our minds completely to the
possibility that strange things can happen I guess.
Joe
Appal Energy wrote:
Actually Bob,
We both know that what was written was far from irrelevant in light of
your heavily "nuanced" statement that those who tend to think of the
possible (or at least the "chemtrail" possibility) are essentially paranoid.
What I pointed out was the fact that on numerous occassions what was
previously deemed to be unthinkable has been revealed to be actual fact,
replete with wanton collusion, fraud and wreckless disregard for human
life. And even when found out, the rationale is what? That those who
object aren't looking at the "bigger picture?"
Enter Josef Mengele..., all for the greater good, right?
So one would think that knowing what you know and in light of the
historical record of deviant human behaviors, you might be a little less
half-cocked and not so flip with your dismissals. Something as simple as
aerial dispersal of unknown materials upon an unaware public is
completely within the realm of reason, and in fact, it's already been
accomplished on a number of occassions. Google search "Green Run" and
then follow up on the numerous other intentional releases for "research."
And as you well know, absence of proof is not proof of absence, as all
the examples provided in my post unerrantly point out.
But you'd rather declare the thoughts of those who perceive such as
being paranoid. This game of "plausible denial," or just flat out
denial, that you play is devious, destructive, distracting and
fraudulently manipulative, no matter whether it is intentional or not.
And we both can be pretty sure that it's not exactly unintentional.
As for
> If I use your logic, I have to construe that you accept every claim
> regardless of source, or physical possibility, rational or not, as valid.
Not at all McDuff. You don't have to construe any such thing. In fact,
if you do, you're playing a little fast and loose with the rules of
logic, much less how I would and do apply them.
To deny, disregard and vaguely denegrate as flippantly as you do is
foolhardy, deceptive, distracting and even illogical, especially in
light of what has transpired in nearly inumerable instances and is no
doubt occurring somewhere, in some venue or another, several times over
as this is being typed. The same can also be said about those who openly
accept every claim as being irrefutable fact.
While you may take the route of glib dismissal, I'd rather keep one eye
open and half a wit aware should ever a confirming slip of proof (paper
trail or other) be stumbled across, as all things are possible,
plausible, and all too often probable when dealing with the aberrance of
the human mind.
Todd Swearingen
Todd, other than everything you wrote was irrelevant to my writing, I
agree with you whole-heartedly. My comments were directed at fears of
"chemtrails" , which I stand by as paranoia until I see a lot more
proof. Show me some evidence that the observed chemtrails are something
other than the usual vapor trails emitted from jets. Show me a rational
as to why someone or some entity would be doing such a thing. For
profit? meanness? world domination? I just do not see much motive, do you?
more below
Appal Energy wrote:
Uhhhh....., let's see Bob,
Paranoia is it?
You seem to forget at minimum thirty years of using thousand of US
citizens as human guinea pigs for radioactive materials testing. That
nasty little "paranoid" conspiracy theory unraveled in the early 90's.
http://www.ippnw.org/MGS/V1N1McCally.html
You're preaching to the choir, here as I agree.
You seem to forget the thousands of US military personel exposed during
Operation Crossroads as well as thousands more intentionally positioned
to observe atmospheric detonations of nuclear weapons at the Nevada test
sites, not to mention the forty years of denial and deceit that followed.
agreed
Let's forget the decades that literally millions of US citizens were
exposed to fad, over-the-counter drugs containing radium, such as
Dentarium, Ointarium, Kaparium, Linarium and just plain Arium, or the
water "elixir" labeled "Radithor." They were all being deemed perfectly
safe and denials were issued by all private and government entities
fifteen years after people started dropping like flies and up to the
very days that each was separately pulled from the market..
agreed
You seem to forget that for thirty-eight years, between 1932 and 1970,
the US Public Health Service and the Tuskegee Institute conducted
studies on 399 black men diagnosed with syphilis. They intentionally
withheld treatment and diagnostic information from these men for
decades, treating them with "placebos" and setting up elaborate "free
medical" schemes to keep their "study group" from venturing out of their
purview so that they could maintain the "integrity" of their data.
agreed
And even with such a dispersed yet long-lived historical track record
and monumental data sets, you continually poo-poo and dismiss all
reports or concerns of all other deceit and debilitating chicanery
No Todd, I don't.
as if
claims of such are the ravings of lunatics.
You are extrapolating to what is not there. I have never made such
all encompassing claims.
If I use your logic, I have to construe that you accept every claim
regardless of source, or physical possibility, rational or not, as valid.
(plans for tinfoil helmets to protect from alien attempts to control our
minds are forthcoming.) :>)
Nonsense.
One of us is either really gullible or really stupid Bob.
I guess I'll have to leave that to you as to which of us is what. I
think it is plain stupid or gullible or both to not make a distinction
between what I think is real and what is not.
You if you
don't believe precisely what cold and calculated depths concerted public
and private interests are capable of stooping to, and me if I accept
your overly eager dismissals of anything and everything
not every thing and anything, I try to be selective. Shouldn't you?
as being nothing
more than "paranoia."
Todd Swearingen
and have a nice day, too Todd.
**
bob allen wrote:
woo-woo alert!
Charles Tounah wrote:
Hello,
As far as the grey layer of crud that's built up in
the atmosphere, there have been airplanes whose sole
apparent purpose has been to lay that grey layer down
in the atmosphere.
oh really?
I have personally observed them in
many different cities, even in different countries,
for about the last five years. The phenomenon is
called chemtrails,
other than usual exhaust emissions- water vapor, CO2, and trace
combustion products such as NOX, what is there?
and you can find a whole education
on the internet regarding it. www.carnicom.com
woo-woo. woo-woo.
(which I have not visited in years) is probably the
most well-known.
sorry for my sarcasm, but I will save my worrying over reality, and
leave the really paranoid speculation to others.
Charles Tounah
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