IPA hard to get? I can't get rid of it! Joe Street wrote:
> I would say try kerosene or heating oil. Gasoline is too volatile and > can create explosive atmospheres. Keep the IPA for titrations!! it is > one of the more difficult items to get. > > Joe > > Mike Weaver wrote: > >>I've done some initial research but haven't delved into one. Sooner or >>later I'll find an oil furnace someone is throwing away and see what I >>can do. >>If I had to cut the BD with another agent to make it easier to use I >>would do that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Gasoline? >>I have 55 gallons of 99% Isopropyl alcohol - is that suitable? >> >>-Mike >> >>Zeke Yewdall wrote: >> >> >> >>>What about the type of burners that are designed to use a liquid fuel >>>directly rather than volatilize a liquid fuel? Like fuel oil >>>furnaces, and waste engine oil burners. All of these I have seen are >>>in the 100,000 Btu/hr range though -- if you could find one more like >>>10 or 20 kBtu, it might work well for heating the reactor. >>> >>>http://www.espar.com/ something like this may be able to be modified. >>>Not cheap though. >>> >>> >>>On 12/6/06, Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Uh.......outdoors?? I dunno but it was warm in my basement..... :-[ >>>> >>>>J >>>> >>>> >>>>Mike Weaver wrote: >>>> >>>>What was the temperature outside? I tried that with a torch and got a >>>>few sputters but no flame. >>>>Is kerosene the most logical agent to cut the BD with? >>>> >>>>Joe Street wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Hi Mike >>>> >>>>For what it's worth I tried running my multifuel backpacking stove on >>>>BD. I had to warm the preheater / vaporizer tube with a propane torch >>>>to get it hot enough to vaporize the BD. Once lit though it had a >>>>beautiful and stable blue flame and judging by boil time comparisons >>>>roughly the same heat as kerosene. Esters have a high flash point and >>>>need a lot of heat to use in a stove that is designed to supply vapor >>>>to the jet. >>>> >>>>Joe >>>> >>>>Mike Weaver wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>So far all attempts to light it have failed. It's 30 degrees here and >>>>that may have something to do with it. I cut the BD w/ a good shot of >>>>Dino diesel and still no go. I got the preheater going but no flame on >>>>the ring. I brought it inside overnight to warm up and will try it >>>>again. If it doesn't go I'll mix in some kerosene. The booklet says >>>>you have to preheat for 3 1/2 mins sometimes to get BD lit. It came >>>>smelling of kerosene to I expect the factory lit it and tested it. FWIW >>>>the pressure gauge is bad but it does hold pressure. >>>> >>>>I had hoped to use it to heat oil so the the bd process was all fueled >>>>by BD. >>>> >>>>I also looked at some of the camping stoves but they are very expensive >>>>and designed to be as light weight as possible. The guy at the camping >>>>store said the thinner distillates works best. >>>> >>>>We'll see, >>>> >>>>Mike >>>> >>>>Ken Dunn wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Please, let us know how it does, Mike. >>>> >>>>Take care, >>>> >>>> >>>>On 12/5/05, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Just got a Britelyt today. Haven't been able to get it to light on BD >>>>but I think it may be due to the fuel being too cold. Will report back >>>>if I get it going. >>>> >>>> >>>>Ken Dunn wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>What is everyone using as a heat source for preheating? I'm thinking >>>>about buying the BriteLyt mentioned on JtF. I could use it for other >>>>purposes as well which would be nice. Anyone test it? 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