If manganese and/ or phosphate insecticides (just phosmet or all OP insecticides?)were the causative agent for TSE (transmissible spongiform encephalopathy), I have a couple of questions.
the disease has been described since the 17th century in sheep and has been observed in humans in New Guinea in the fifties. Surely there were no phosphate insecticides or manganese licks there. http://intramural.niddk.nih.gov/research/wickner/prions.htm Why is the evidence so strong for the tranmissability of the disease? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12955129&dopt=Citation and http://www.eucomed.be/docs/Transmission%20of%20prions.pdf and finally yet another hypothesis for TSE. http://drbroxmeyer.netfirms.com/MadCow.pdf Marylynn Schmidt wrote: > Additional information per Mark Purdey on Mad Cow, etc for anyone > interested. > > Mary Lynn Schmidt > > > >>From: Sheri Nakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: (Recipient list suppressed) >>Subject: [Vaccine Info] Organophosphates, manganese, autism, Mark Purdey, >>BSE >>Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:02:46 +0000 >> >>Email from Mark Purdey on a list I'm on (from 2002) >>http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/ (Mark's email address at the webpage) >>(more on my webpages http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/bse.htm) >> >>Hi, >> >>Yea, I am just back from the State's having been lecturing and researching >>the issue of feeding manganese to deer for their antler growth and the >>consequent eruption of chronic wasting disease ( the BSE equivalent ) in >>deer populations across wisconsin and colorado. Whilst I had an amazing >>time, I was appalled by the government mandated wholesale deer slaughter >>across these regions. It makes no scientific sense at all. You simply stop >>feeding them manganese licks - replacing them with copper licks - to >>prevent the disease !! >> >>It is interesting; this issue of high levels of manganese in autistic >>individuals. This could either result from high exposure to dietary >>manganese or from inhalation of airborn manganese pollutants, but could >>equally result from one of many possible metabolic disturbances surrounding >>the way in which the uptake of manganese is regulated at the gut wall or >>blood brain barrier, or in the way that manganese is stored in the liver / >>transported / excreted at the kidney tubules, etc. It would be useful to >>examine the environment / diet of the autisitic boy who had high manganese >>in their red blood cells. lets hear more on that one ? We might be able to >>trace the source of the problem then. It does not bode well for putting >>manganese as a lead replacement in petrol !! >> >>Manganese intoxications have certainly been demonstrated to cause severe >>disruption to the serotonergic nerve networks, which are, likewise, well >>recognised to be impaired in autistic individuals. >> >>It is incorrect that the organophosphates ( OPs) used for warble fly >>control contained manganese. This misconception was first generated by an >>appalling article in the Times, and when I complained to them , they were >>too arrogant to even correct it !! >> >>However, systemic OPs will increase the permeability of the blood brain >>barrier ( like oestrogens, anti-cancer drugs, prolonged stress and sonic >>shock, etc ) thus allowing a considerable increase in the amount of >>manganese and other metals that are taken up into the brain. The warble fly >>OPs also chelate copper. >> >>There are some systemic organo manganese fungicides in use , such as maneb >>and mancozeb, and I am currently studying this dramatic cluster of >>Parkinson's disease affecting one in three farmers in a 25 sq mile pocket >>of West Wales - where they are spraying maneb for blight control of early >>potatoes almost weekly throughout the growing season. >> >>There is megatons of manganese related info on my website - >>www.markpurdey.com. >> >>It would be good to investigate the environment of the autistic boy who had >>high red cell Mn. Do they use any Mn in vaccinations, perhaps for the same >>reasons as they use aluminium ? >> >>Take care, >> >>Mark >>************** >> >>http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/ >> >> >>http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/faq.htm >> >> 1) Organophosphates (OPs) have been used all over the world for >>decades - how could they have caused BSE? >> >> OPs per se don't cause BSE,CJD or Scrapie. They are not like >>infectious agents that produce a specific disease when you come into >>contact with them.There is a vast group of chemicals out there coming into >>the OP category and there are many variables at work when animals or humans >>come into contact with them : dose and timing of dose; formulation - >>systemic or non-systemic, oil or water based; exposure route ie.breathed >>in, oral, skin contact, vapour contact to eye, as foetus, pour on ; >>additional ingredients and impurities are often present; neuropathic or non >>neuropathic; LD 50 (toxicity); variable biochemistry. The principle cause >>of BSE, in our opinion, was the way we used a copper chelating OP, Phosmet >>- at 4x the maximum dose, in an oil based systemic formulation, poured on >>the cow's spine, bi-annually (with a voluntary follow up dose after a >>fortnight). This was unique to the UK. during the 80s.There were many other >>OP exposures at the time that played a smaller role and you have to >>consider the cumulative affect of all of them. There are other factors >>involved, the most important of which was/is the greater availability of >>Manganese in the bovine diet. see the Introductory Hypothesis and other >>pages on this site. >> >>http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/Web%20references.htm >> >>http://www.purdeyenvironment.com/IntroHyp.htm >> >>-------------------------------------------------------- >>Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath >>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [email protected] > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob "Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves" - Richard Feynman _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [email protected] http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
