Hello Maria, Bob and All,
I see what you mean by a chimney effect providing additional air for the fire. The plane's body could add to the heat if it could reach the ignition point. I wonder what the ignition point is for the metal used in a airliner. I would think that the chimney effect would dissapate heat from the crash point to the upper floors.
Tom
From: MARIA BURGER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm certainly no "expert" either, but I would presume that charges placed in the middle of the building would initiate structural collapse from the middle. Nothing says you have to put them at the bottom! Cheers!Chris----- Original Message -----From: bob allenSent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:45 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11Howdy Tom, I'm no expert but one feature of the towers was rather large
unbaffled elevator shafts. get a fire going and you have a considerable
chimney effect, also what other materials from the planes and or
structures themselves could have contributed to the flame temperature-
magnesium for example. once you get a few of the upper floors to fail
there was a pancaking effect as the top floors fell through and added to
the load on the floors below.
wouldn't planted charges caused the structural failure from the bottom
up? That's not what I recall from the videos.
Tom Irwin wrote:
> Hi Bob and all,
>
> I think it's in a lot of water supplies. But I have a couple of
> questions for you that have bothered me for sometime.. How does an
> oxygen starved kerosene fire melt structural steel? Could such a fire
> really cause temperature hardened rivits to fail? ....and so many
> simultaneously.
>
> Tom
>
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> *From:* bob allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> *Sent:* Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:15:03 -0300
> *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S.
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>
> Is there something in the water in Utah? Didn't Jones collaborate
> with Fleischmann and Pons in the
> cold fusion fiasco?
>
>
>
> D. Mindock wrote:
> > See: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/ 0...5179751,00.html
> > <http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635179751,00.html>
> >
> > Last fall, Brigham Young University physics professor Steven E.
> Jones
> > made headlines when he charged that the World Trade Center collapsed
> > because of "pre-positioned explosives." Now, along with a group that
> > calls itself "Scholars for 9/11 Truth," he's upping the ante.
> > "We believe that senior government officials have covered up crucial
> > facts about what really happened on 9/11," the group says in a
> statement
> > released Friday announcing its formation. "We believe these
> events may
> > have been orchestrated by the administration in order to
> manipulate the
> > American people into supporting policies at home and abroad."
> > Headed by Jones and Jim Fetzer, University of Minnesota Duluth
> > distinguished McKnight professor of philosophy, the group is made
> up of
> > 50 academicians and others.
> > They include Robert M. Bowman, former director of the U.S. "Star
> Wars"
> > space defense program, and Morgan Reynolds, former chief
> economist for
> > the Department of Labor in President George W. Bush's first term.
> Most
> > of the members are less well-known.
> > Avery Wiseman | 03.25.06 - 4:19 pm | #
> > <http://www.haloscan.com/comments/tf2777/article12493_htm/#13842>
> >
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