According to our Commander in Thief....., ehhhh hehhh hemmmm...., I mean 
Chief, It's all " wild speculation." He used those words today when 
referring to the article that ran some renowned rag this weekend.

Oddly enough, "wild speculation" doesn't mean something isn't true. A 
lot of people have made their fortunes speculating.

In a couple of months we'll probably see "wild speculation" going down 
in the annals of history, right beside "weapons of mass destruction."

Let's hope not.

Todd Swearingen



Debra wrote:

>from: Deborah Howard (I'm on the list)
>I've been reading all the messages and thought I would comment on this one. 
>I'm a massage therapist at the "biggest casino in the world" consequently I 
>see people all over the world on a regular basis.  A few weeks ago I was in 
>conversation with a woman in our army.  I asked if she had ever been to 
>Egypt, and she looked up and asked me if I knew something.  She said she had 
>already served over a year in Iraq and was home when she received a standby 
>notice that she may be sent into Egypt.  I wondered what that was all about. 
>Any thing to do with Iran?
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: [IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran?]
>
>
>  
>
>>I've been posting stuff on this here for months, so have a few
>>others, very few people have taken any notice.
>>
>>It is utterly unbelievable that Americans, only now so belatedly
>>waking up with growing fury at how they were lied to and manipulated
>>on the road to the Iraq debacle are actually swallowing the exact
>>same set of lies and manipulations in order to do the same or worse
>>in Iran.
>>
>>What the hell is the matter with you people??? What are you going to
>>do about it? Vote??? Good God, WAKE UP!!!
>>
>>Stop it happening!
>>
>>Now!
>>
>>Damn, thank heavens for Seymour Hersh.
>>
>>"Hopefully" you say Mike:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Let's all pray that reason and sanity prevail once again.
>>>
>>>Best wishes for world peace,
>>>      
>>>
>>With all due respect it'll take a little more than hopes prayers and
>>wishes. Do it! Put a stop to your mad dogs.
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hakan,
>>>
>>>Agreed. The sh-t would hit the fan. Hopefully enough reason and sanity 
>>>will
>>>eventually prevail like it did during the cold war (we survived it
>>>somehow). Of
>>>course it may have been MAD (a form of insanity called Mutually Assured
>>>Destruction, the idea that no one wins, except by not fighting or starting 
>>>a
>>>nuclear war), that actually saved us during the cold war.
>>>
>>>What I find to be so ludicrous (silly, ridiculous) is that if  IRAN
>>>really wanted
>>>to Nuke Israel or the USA they would not need a real nuclear weapon, and 
>>>they
>>>would have done it already with a dirty nuclear weapon since they already 
>>>have
>>>nuclear power plants with uranium.
>>>
>>>I suspect they have not done so, even if they wanted to, because
>>>they know if they
>>>did the US or Israel would level Iran in retaliation, probably with nukes.
>>>
>>>The really scary part,  I fear, is that even if the US does back
>>>down, Israel will
>>>still not allow Iran to make nuclear bombs and therefore will not
>>>back down. So,
>>>anyway you look at it, if Iran does not back off on the nuclear
>>>issue we will all
>>>be in deep sh-t.
>>>
>>>What also concerns me is that if the US attacks Iran, North Korea
>>>will probably
>>>freak out and go nuts since they would believe they were next. I have 
>>>heard no
>>>mention of this yet in the news.
>>>
>>>Let's all pray that reason and sanity prevail once again.
>>>
>>>Best wishes for world peace,
>>>
>>>Mike McGinness
>>>
>>>Hakan Falk wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Mike,
>>>>
>>>>As a foreigner and hearing Bush preparing for attacks on Iran, I
>>>>sometimes have a very short moment of wishing him doing it, because
>>>>it would be so stupid and probably finish him. Then I think about my
>>>>American friends with my positive experiences from US and wish
>>>>strongly that he would be stopped. If US attack Iran, then we would
>>>>rapidly understand what the expression "the sh-t hits the fan" means.
>>>>The global consequences for US would be enormously negative.
>>>>
>>>>Hakan
>>>>
>>>>At 06:16 09/04/2006, you wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Reading the article discussed below is just plain scary as hell. If
>>>>>it's true we
>>>>>need to contact our congresspersons and senators and tell them
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>how we feel so
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>that they can put a stop to this madness now before it is too late.
>>>>>Since there
>>>>>is an election coming up in November,  something tells me if
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>they hear from
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>enough of us now they will take decisive action.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike McGinness
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Marty Phee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>-------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>Subject:        [IP] Is the US preparing to bomb Iran?
>>>>>>Date:   Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:43:42 -0400
>>>>>>From:   David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>Reply-To:       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>To:     ip@v2.listbox.com
>>>>>>References:     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Tim Finin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>Date: April 8, 2006 3:40:18 PM EDT
>>>>>>To: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>Subject: Is the US preparing to bomb Iran?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seymour Hersh has a 6000 work article in next week's New
>>>>>>Yorker on possible plans for a pre-emptive bombing strike
>>>>>>against Iran including the use of nuclear weapons.  While
>>>>>>Hersh has not always been right in his predications, he has a
>>>>>>pretty good track record on the whole.  It's a good article
>>>>>>and also a worrisome one.  No matter what you believe of the
>>>>>>wisdom of attacking Iran, if we do there are bound to be many
>>>>>>more difficulties ahead before things get better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>
>>>>>>THE IRAN PLANS
>>>>>>Would President Bush go to war to stop Tehran from getting the 
>>>>>>bomb?
>>>>>>Seymour M. Hersh, New yorker issue of 2006-04-17, posted 2006-04-10
>>>>>>http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Bush Administration, while publicly advocating diplomacy
>>>>>>in order to stop Iran from pursuing a nuclear weapon, has
>>>>>>increased clandestine activities inside Iran and intensified
>>>>>>planning for a possible major air attack. Current and former
>>>>>>American military and intelligence officials said that Air
>>>>>>Force planning groups are drawing up lists of targets, and
>>>>>>teams of American combat troops have been ordered into Iran,
>>>>>>under cover, to collect targeting data and to establish
>>>>>>contact with anti-government ethnic-minority groups. The
>>>>>>officials say that President Bush is determined to deny the
>>>>>>Iranian regime the opportunity to begin a pilot program,
>>>>>>planned for this spring, to enrich uranium.
>>>>>>...
>>>>>>A government consultant with close ties to the civilian
>>>>>>leadership in the Pentagon said that Bush was "absolutely
>>>>>>convinced that Iran is going to get the bomb" if it is not
>>>>>>stopped. He said that the President believes that he must do
>>>>>>"what no Democrat or Republican, if elected in the future,
>>>>>>would have the courage to do," and "that saving Iran is going
>>>>>>to be his legacy."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One former defense official, who still deals with sensitive
>>>>>>issues for the Bush Administration, told me that the military
>>>>>>planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing
>>>>>>campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and
>>>>>>lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government." He
>>>>>>added, "I was shocked when I heard it, and asked myself, 'What
>>>>>>are they smoking?'"
>>>>>>...
>>>>>>http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
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