hmmm, i didnt mean book as such , but yes i agree ----- Original Message ----- From: "lres1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Honoring the Sacred Core of Islam
> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason & Katie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Honoring the Sacred Core of Islam > > >> i dont really take stock in any religion, so i think i can see a lot of > the >> problems with this topic. first of all, god does not create power, but >> gather it from those who believe in him/her/them, making it an item of >> thought. coming from so many places and people who have their own >> versions >> of this idea, we fail to see the original idea from a time long >> forgotten. >> it is like a book that has been re-interpreted and re-printed hundreds of >> times- with every new editor comes a different story. the only >> correlation >> between these versions now is the concept of peace and trust, which >> during >> the last few centuries has been buried in things like the acts and events >> leading to the exodus, the crusades, and today's jihad. >> the versions have become more skewed and removed from the original over >> time, but that process is accelerating like never before, and that is >> causing major problems. if someone could find the first "book" in this > long >> chain of reproductions a large number of problems would be remedied. > > There was/is no first book as such. Words were not there. The basis was > living in harmony with nature, living with empathy for each other, > considering your effect on the greater. That first book was not in ink but > stapled inside of every person. Hunter gatherers spend much more time > socializing than the "developed" world, their whole day involves a lot of > social activities. The yard stick for progression/evolution in regards > humanity has been in material growth. If the yard stick were to have been > a > more scientific/spiritual or religious one then perhaps we would not be in > the mess we are today. The forces surrounding humanity for hundreds of > years > has been with external control of the individual, and thus the masses, by > an > elite minority. What if we were to have functioned as a group of purpose > unified yet separate > entities as one whole. Some caretakers we have turned out to be? Lets hope > we can change/repair in the allotted time. > > Doug > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:02 AM >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Honoring the Sacred Core of Islam >> >> >> >> >> Interesting, but why do not tell that >> Christianity is the one of God's "spin off" that, >> historically and presently, is the most violent, >> indifferent and brutal version. Islam is probably >> on average least violent, even if you look at >> current statistics also. If you truly worship >> God, you must also accept all by humans created >> religious versions and different views of Jesus >> role and part in it. The Muslims and Jews, >> recognize him as a prophet, but the Christians is >> killing those who do not accept that he was God's >> son and have done so for hundreds of years. In my >> view, the religious people that fail to be >> inclusive, and realize that they all belong to >> the combined group of Christians, Muslims and >> Jews, are faltering in their belief in God and >> his basic laws. Then we have the complete idiots, >> who belive that war would in any way further >> God's interest. It is sad when they occupy >> important leader positions and create havoc among >> all God's children. That Bush is not stroke by >> lightning, is a major proof to falter in the >> general belive in God's existence. What is >> proven, is that humanity consist of a majority of stupid religious >> idiots. >> >> Hakan >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is >> believed to be clean. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is > believed to be clean. > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 - Release Date: 4/11/2006 > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
