aye, i read your post, and i live between Gladstone and NKC. not exactly sure what township this is, but i rent, so land taxes arent a problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense
> LOL...amen brother...have to use the whole coin. The List is helping me > do > so. I've also printed out and am keeping in front of the Credo for JtF. > Also keeping on my desktop a shortcut to the words of the song and the > song > itself. Ok...so now more fatheadedness...what is "Namaste"? Also, I want > to be sure Jason and Weaver read my post to Jesse that included my > excitement about the three of us either living near or having ties near > where each of us live. Any suggestions? Thanks. Mike D > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense > > >> >Hi Keith...and List...thank you. I had read, but forgotten (shame >>>on me), the Credo before I asked to join. It gave me the confidence >>>to ask to join. Wonderful to be reminded of, wake up with and read >>>this morning. Is that sunshine I see peaking through the clouds?!!! >>>Getting ready to Look on the Bright Side of LIFE!!! Mike DuPree >> >> Hey Mike, you just made my day. Not only it helped but you read it >> before. >> :-) >> >> You mean that crazy song actually works?? LOL! >> >> This thread has covered a lot of ground from where it started to >> where it is now. Interesting. Interesting last few posts from you >> too, and nicely put, both sides of the coin, the bright and the dark. >> One side of a coin doesn't buy you much, does it, you have to use the >> whole coin. >> >> Namaste. >> >> Keith >> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Keith Addison" >>><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>>Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:38 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense >>> >>> > Hi Mike >>> > >>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>From: >>><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mark>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mark >>>manchester >>> >>To: >>><<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org>mai >>>lto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> >>Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 4:22 PM >>> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense >>> >> >>> >>Hi Jesse...thanks for writing. You wrote: This is surely the most >>> >>depressing post I've ever seen. A sign of the times??? You >>> >>wrote: Mike! What sort of response were you thinking you'd get? I >>> >>wasn't thinking, at least about what response I might get. I felt >>> >>frustrated, perhaps mostly by my own illusions. You wrote: How can >>> >>anyone respond to this. One way is how you have responded. You >>> >>wrote: No dream no agriculture no biodiesel no... simple >>> >>answer. It depends on the question. For me in my post the question >>> >>deals with how do I personally deal with the madness on the >>> >>planet that appears to be becoming more so everyday. Biodiesel is a >>> >>way. And I'm excited to see it develop. But I feel overwhelmed by >>> >>something much bigger. I could call it Big Energy, Big Gov't. Big >>> >>whatever. But I'm afraid it has something more to do with me than >>> >>with anything outside of me. But then it's not just me...it's the >>> >>sheer size and weight of humanity on the planet (and growing growing >>> >>growing). >>> > >>> > Plenty of room to spare, no room for dogs in the manger. >>> > >>> >>So I could do as you said: Leave!! But you and I both know >>> >>it isn't that simple. For you it is your reasons. For me, I'll try >>> >>to explain in answer to your question: What are you there for? >>> >> Jesse I've thought about writing to Keith personally and asking >>> >>him to remove me from the List since my original intention of >>> >>joining the List has changed. >>> > >>> > You're welcome to change your intentions. It's not like a contract >>> > you're not allowed to break or something. A lot of people like the >>> > diversity of the list. There are these message snippets from various >>> > members at the website list subscription section, for instance: >>> > >>> > - "I came to the list strictly interested in getting my biodiesel >>> > project off the ground. Following the various postings I have >>> > discovered that I see the world as if from the bottom of a well. The >>> > view is expanding ever so slightly, ever so slowly. Thanks to all." >>> > >>> > - "The Biofuel list has awakened me to many ways I can directly help >>> > make a difference. The knowledge I have gained from reading the list >>> > in a few short months has encouraged me to try again." >>> > >>> > - "I benefit very much personally from the list, and I have yet to >>> > make one drop of biofuel! But the insights that I get from the list >>> > are amazing." >>> > >>> > - "I like the global view. It's good to have your beliefs challenged." >>> > >>> > - "This list has proven to me how little I know, so many times." >>> > >>> > The only time I'd remove you is if your intentions changed to those >>> > of a dog in the manger and you couldn't be reasoned with. >>> > >>> > Otherwise, if you want out, you'd have to do it yourself, it's none >>> > of my business. >>> > >>> > I guess this is the background to the way the list runs, have a look, >>> > it might hearten you: >>> > >>><http://journeytoforever.org/community.html#credo>http://journeytofore >>>ver.org/community.html#credo >>> > >>> >>I came here with the intention of learning how to make biodiesel and >>> >>having a support group while doing so. I have since decided for a >>> >>multitude of reasons to not go this path. But the List, as you >>> >>know, is about more than just biodiesel. It is...hmm...well, I >>> >>guess that depends on who you are and I am and any one of us is and >>> >>especially who Keith lets it be. >>> > >>> > It has a mind of its own. I'm just the skivvy. >>> > >>> >>So I haven't written to Keith, because for me, what I have observed >>> >>and come to look for in my email, is someone else trying, just like >>> >>me, to survive the madness...not to Leave!!...but to Live!!! Or >>> >>maybe I misjudged what I have been reading. >>> > >>> > I don't think so. I do think there are better options around than >>> > just surviving it though. >>> > >>> >>Consequently, if this List is not the place for me to have expressed >>> >>what I have how I have, then it isn't. >>> > >>> > Some might think it is, some might think it isn't, but if you think >>> > it's the place then it is the place, just as long as you're not being >>> > a dog in the manger. >>> > >>> >> Ah well, the glaciers are fading (check out pics in June, >>> >>2006, Men's Journal...staggering...we're fried folks!) >>> > >>> > Too soon to tell. Definitely not too early to be wide awake and up >>> > and doing about it though, among other things. A lot of people think >>> > the Biofuel list is the right place for that too. >>> > >>> >> as the planet heats up, BushCo not only not helpful but profoundly >>> >>hurtful, US debt and the decline of the US dollar are poised to >>> >>reveal to Americans the slaves all of us really are, even as jobs >>> >>are disappearing for many here to many, many more Wall Street will >>> >>pay less (actually the same according to some variations of the >>> >>SOLVE act if it is passed) and conscript into its Death Machine, etc >>> >>etc etc, apparently AD INFINITUM. So let me tell ya...I'm smilin >>> >>babeee...I mean "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel >>> >>fine...." Toto?!! Toto?!! Oh TOTO!!!! "And I feel fine..." >>> > >>> > Once again, all together now, women and children first, just follow >>> > me: >>> > >>> > uh-one, uh-two, uh-one, two, three four... >>> > >>> > ALWAYS LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE OF LIFE - TA-DUM, TA-DUM TA-DUM TA-DUM. >>> > >>> > >>><http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamm3u.m3u?id=720675&q=lo>http://ww >>>w.soundclick.com/util/streamm3u.m3u?id=720675&q=lo >>> > >>> > >>><http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics/Always_Look_Bright_Side_Life.sht >>>ml>http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics/Always_Look_Bright_Side_Life.s >>>html >>> > Always Look On the Bright Side of Life (from Monty Python's Life of >>> > Brian) >>> > >>> > Best >>> > >>> > Keith >>> > >>> > >>> >> Mike DuPree >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>From: "M&K DuPree" >>><<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>unflower.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>Reply-To: >>><<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org>mai >>>lto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> >>Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:30:57 -0500 >>> >>To: >>> >><<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water and Other Nonsense >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Hi D and List...Looking forward to watching What The Bleep Do We >>> >>Know? Checked out the website, synopsis, and trailer. Wow. Thanks >>> >>D. >>> >> Big Energy, Big Government, Big Religion, Big Bad...why do I >>> >>feel so sad? Just ain't no hope for the little guy...probably never >>> >>was. David vs Goliath just another fairy tale. "I HAVE A DREAM..." >>> >> Sorry pops, just a dream. The mountain of insolvency just too Big >>> >>too overcome. "Dang me, dang me, guess I'll take a rope and hang >>> >>me." No hope anywhere...oh!...build myself a biodiesel plant...but >>> >>wait...my neighbor's doin same. Last one to the WVO loses!!! >>> >> Another dream defiled. Where's my bicycle...gotta be a problem >>> >>there too...frame made in China??? Go buy some food...too stupid, >>> >>poor, lazy, or just simply born at the wrong time in the wrong place >>> >>to grow my own, to say nothing of the locust invasion last year that >>> >>kept me out of the fields and meant me needing to buy from who knows >>> >>where on the planet...DANG ME!!!! What a rotten Reality. Oh, I >>> >>see, not supposed to SEE...just dream..."Imagine"...and take four >>> >>bullets in the back. Lovely. Good morning, WORLD!!! I LOVE YOU!!! >>> >>PEACE!!! Hey, give me back the shirt off my back. Ah well...takin >>> >>my can of worms and goin fishin in that polluted water over >>> >>there...and dream...with my gun by my side. Mike DuPree >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>From: D. Mindock >>><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>To: <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> >>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:52 AM >>> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water >>> >> >>> >>Mike, >>> >> Just want to add my 2 cents on this subject. If BlackLight, or >>> >>anyone else, comes up >>> >>with a solid system to create vast amounts of energy from >>> >>water/hydrogen, it will be >>> >>snatched up by Big Energy and then controlled by them. Not much will >>> >>change. Our >>> >>monthly energy bills won't go away. >>> >> I think we can rely on the gov to allow Big Energy to parcel out >>> >>energy to we wee folks and keep their >>> >>profits in the 100's of billions of dollars per year. Congress >>> >>writes the laws that Big Energy dictates. >>> >>It is Big Energy that is gluttonous. >>> >> The masses are bombarded with propaganda and hardly realize how >>> >>they're all being manipulated. >>> >>I am still waking up from this soup of B.S. we've been immersed in >>> >>here in the U$A. >>> >>Peace to all, D. Mindock P.S. I agree that we are all >>> >>inter-connected, more than we can imagine. >>> >>I saw the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?" a couple years ago, and >>> >>nothing's been the same >>> >>since. >>> >> >>> >>----- Original Message ----- >>> >>From: M&K DuPree >>><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>To: <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> >>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:28 PM >>> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water >>> >> >>> >>Thanks Bob...it's all new to me, and I'm thankful I have the List to >>> >>present my inquiries. PS You noted earlier and Joe Street agreed, >>> >>"In my mind, infinite energy is the worst case scenario I can think >>> >>of- energy to spare, energy to drive the gluttonous behavior of >>> >>everybody on the planet. NO THANKS" LOL...well...yes, I kind of >>> >>agree, because I know way too many fatheads who would take advantage >>> >>of ulimited energy in just such a manner. But then I also disagree. >>> >> What WOULD unlimited energy mean for the planet and its' peoples??? >>> >> To me, that question seems to point to a question of human nature, >>> >>which your statement indicates you believe is utterly without hope >>> >>for a true social consciousness and conscience. Maybe you disagree, >>> >>but I'm just citing your words. Contrarily, I witness something >>> >>very different present. Please hang with me for a moment while I >>> >>try to explain. "Independence" is an illusion. Let me say that >>> >>again, "Independence" is an illusion. I recognize "individuality," >>> >>but "independence"...NOT!!!! Every individual one of us is part of >>> >>the same planet and ultimately the ever changing universe. This is >>> >>the truth; this is true. More specifically, we each breathe the >>> >>same air, drink the same water, eat the same dirt, at least as >>> >>concerns the source. But it doesn't look, feel, taste, etc, that >>> >>way because we each receive a modification of the source. Some get >>> >>more of the source than others. Some get better quality of the >>> >>source than others. Enter politics. Enter religion. Enter >>> >>whatever enters to confound each one's sense of their connection to >>> >>the same source and thereby to each other, the planet, LIFE. So, so >>> >>what??? Who cares? Good question. So what if we are all >>> >>individuals inherently connected to each other? How does that >>> >>change all or even any of us from being "gluttonous" at heart??? I >>> >>suppose in one way it doesn't, because LIFE, being so full of >>> >>itself, of ONLY itself, must necessarily be "gluttonous." Don't >>> >>tell me there is LIFE opposed to death....NOT. There appears to be >>> >>birth and death (technically, birthing and deathing intertwined as >>> >>the same thinging...lol....which is LIFE)....but LIFE remains and >>> >>will remain...FOREVER. It must, otherwise, I couldn't be and you >>> >>couldn't be and no one could be. Some thing does NOT come from no >>> >>thing. In fact, there is NOT any THING; there is only somethinging. >>> >> Still with me??? lol Consequently, I guess in my heart of hearts I >>> >>have to agree with Alfred E. Newman, "What? Me worry?" No, I don't >>> >>like getting dicked around or worse, but it happens, as much because >>> >>of people having an incredibly narrow perspective on their lives. >>> >> So they get "gluttonous." Not "everybody," however. Whether or >>> >>not they are, however, it seems to me an unlimted source of energy >>> >>would have the very opposite reaction...rather than more gluttony, I >>> >>believe we would see more feeling of and acting upon concern for >>> >>each other, if for no other reason than LIFE would have a better >>> >>chance on a more widely accepted level to be viewed more as it is >>> >>than as the politicians and priests are able now to construe it as >>> >>something limited. Anyway, I'm sure everything I've written here >>> >>can come under the severest attack. This List is a wonderful place >>> >>to help keep a guy honest and precise with his words. I've tried to >>> >>do that, and I'm sure the LIST will help me do that better. We're >>> >>all on a JourneyToForever, and the best any of us can do, it seems >>> >>to me, is to be here to help ease the pain of our individuality a >>> >>little or a lot. Each of us must discover that for him or herself. >>> >> Mike DuPree >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006 > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
