Todd, "I spent fifteen minutes sifting through several weeks of their archives just to get a snippet of the facts before I first replied. But I certainly can't spend hours hunting down what's relative and culling out what's not."
*Which I did, although it took about a minute to read the original post, and then I went out and searched the 'net for other coverage. Maybe 5 minutes. Nothing I read convinced me that this was anything other than an assault on a peaceful protester. The only people saying otherwise are the ones who beat her up and arrested her. I value the right of peaceful protest and believe we all have a duty to protect it, and to protest when it is abused. "That was the point of my post. "Where are the facts?" Took another three or four posts before someone finally provided them. Call it an error of omission on my part. I call it someone not having any free time on his hands - nada, none, zippo, zilch - to read on, and on, and on, and on until something came to the surface." *I Googled it - didn't take long at all. *Keith is right when he says: "Technology has given the angry voices a more public outlet. The blogosphere is rife with postings castigating Coca-Cola, Wal-Mart and other big companies, citing everything from unfair labor practices to dangerous smokestack emissions." And: Why are you importing the rules of one type of journalism (print) into a discussion that focuses on online information? Do newspapers come with handy word-search engines, for instance? Do you see that rule of journalism much in evidence when it comes to blogs? That thing is a sort of blog. What goes on in the blogosphere is making big huge dents in the mainstream press these days, and making it a lot more difficult for the interests that own it to help paper over the spreading cracks in the concrete. They're kicking and screaming about it, but the blogs are forcing them to cover issues they'd been studiously ignoring... * Keith *is* a journalist, and he understands the distinction between a list posting and a media story. I learn a lot from this list, but not everything comes perfectly packaged. Even a long thread will sometimes have the true wisdom at the bottom. If there is a discussion of how to evaluate your BD, there may be quite a bit of back and forth at the top of the posting, then some graybeard will chime in with the answer at the bottom. The list is an organic thing, as are blogs. If you look at the JtF website, on the other hand, you can see where Keith's journalism background comes in: the text is well-organized, succinct, and then referenced, not unlike a well-done newspaper story. "As for your volley of e-mails? Should the presumption be made that you live in the area and didn't know about it 'till now?" * Not sure what the point of this is. I do not live in Cleveland Heights. I read about it here and evaluated the whole situation and then registered my feelings about the matter with the mayor and other public servants. I often take action based on what I read on the list. NAIS, voting problems and so on. I do learn about important issues here, do some research on my own, then act. That's a major part of the reason I'm on this list. I will say I find it interesting that you can find the time to send all this email *about* this post, but don't have the time to research it on your own. -Mike _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/