i wonder if i could use the castor oil as a lube and after an oil change use it for BD? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (most likely to get me)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] castorbeans > >sorry, bad explanation again. i meant as a lubricant not a fuel, i >>believe it was kieth who pointed me at information about castor oil. >>it breaks down under heat and pressure and the lubricative >>properties are enhanced after a period of use. the problem is if it >>breaks down too far, it turns to a thick messy sludge with little or >>no continuing benefit as a lubricant. >> >>Jason > > This one I think: > http://www.georgiacombat.com/CASTOR_OIL.htm > CASTOR OIL > > They prevent the final breakdown with additives: > > "Unfortunately, the end byproduct of this process is what we refer to > as "varnish." So, you can't have everything, but you can come close > by running a mixture of castor oil with polyalkylene glycol like > Union Carbide's UCON, or their MA 731. This mixture has some > synergistic properties, or better properties than either product had > alone." > > Best > > Keith > > >>ICQ#: 154998177 >>MSN: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (most >>likely to get me) >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Zeke Yewdall >>To: <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:51 PM >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] castorbeans >> >>I tried using biodiesel (probably about 25% biodiesel/75% gasoline) >>in a lawnmower. Smokey startup, and stalled right away. I think >>the primitive lawnmower carb couldn't vaporize the biodiesel >>effectively -- relying on the vaccuum from the engine to suck the >>fuel out of the tank into the carb probably didn't help either (it >>would start every time when you used the primer bulb, but stall >>right out). Makes me want to try it on a fuel injected gas engine >>that could probably manage to actually get the biodiesel mix into >>the cylinders though. >> >>On 6/26/06, Jason& Katie <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >> >>i wanted to try this also, i have a mostly scrap lawnmower engine >>that is good for experiments of this nature. >> >>Jason >>ICQ#: 154998177 >>MSN: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (most >>likely to get me) >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>lres1 >>To: <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:37 PM >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] castorbeans >> >>Have had many years ago engines like steam driven units that used >>good castor oil as their engine lubricants. Some of this was fed >>through adjustable sight feed lubricators to open shafts and some >>was in dip pans where a ring was inserted to the centre of a bearing >>but of large diameter and thus the ring was in the oil and slowly >>picked up the oil and dropped it to the shafts. >> >>A similar system was used in Comet and Southern Cross wind pumps >>running on white metal bearings and or hard wood bearings. The oil >>for the later being of many mixed varieties of what could be had. >> >>Has any one run straight castor oil as stand alone engine oil in the >>sump of an engine without using any other additives? I have used it >>but only in small model engines and not as a fully synthetic stand >>alone in a car or SUV. Any ideas? >> >>Doug >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Mike Redler >>To: <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:06 AM >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] castorbeans >> >>Hi Juan, >> >>I saw the word "beans" and thought of a climbing plant, like a string >>bean. >> >>...bad assumption. I'm definitely NOT a farmer. >> >>Anyway, I'll check Keith's links. >> >>Thanks. >> >>-Redler >> >> >>Juan Boveda wrote: >> >>>Hello Mike Redler. >>>That crop is like a big bush, in this subtropical country it grows like a >>>weed (no insecticides needed) but it needs a fertile dirt, water and a >>> >>>half-squared meter for its deep roots. I does not climbs, more likely it >>>can be used for the urban farmer as a shadow for parking lots if they are >>>planted in groups. It was discussed the production of biodiesel from >>>castor >>> >>>and Keith sent to the list the following message that has many links. >>>Best Regards. >>> >>>Juan Boveda >>>Paraguay >>>---------------- >>> >>>-----original----- >>>From: Keith Addison [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>] >>>Sent: 3/30/ 2006 5:38 >>>For: <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Seeking experience to produce biodiesel >>>from Castor >>> >>> >>> >>>>Anyone care to share any experiences with castor oil based biodiesel >>>>brewing using small-scale plants? I am told that castor oil dissolves >>>>in alcohols and external heating is eliminated from the process. I'm >>>> >>>>also hearing conjectures that castor based biodiesel will not freeze >>>>even below -20 deg C. Any pointers to more specific info along these >>>> >>>> >>>lines? >>> >>> >>>>I'll get to my own brewing/learning experiments soon (and I'll start >>>>with proven processes and materials described on J2FE), but we could do >>>>with as much existing wisdom as we can get our hands on, especially >>>> >>>>because what we want to get into out here is not only for our personal >>>>consumption. Many thanks in advance for any help. >>>> >>>>Chandan >>>> >>>> >>>Hi Chandan >>> >>>I can't share any experience of using castor oil but I can offer some >>> >>>information which might help. It's been discussed a few times before, >>>I think other list members may have direct experience of it. >>> >>>List archives: >>><http://snipurl.com/oeit> >>>http://snipurl.com/oeit >>>Search results for 'castor' >>> >>>The one disadvantage mentioned, that I haven't seen an answer to, was >>>that crushing the seeds creates a seriously bad odour, enough to put >>>people off. Also the cake is poinsonous, but James Duke says: >>>"Although it is highly toxic due to the ricin, a method of >>>detoxicating the meal has now been found, so that it can safely be >>>fed to >>>livestock.<"http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_com >>>munis.htmlRicinuscommunisThetoxicprincipleiswater-solublesoisnotfoundi >>>ntheoil.It%27salsosaidtobeadryingoil,theequaloftungoil,yetithasamuchlo >>>werIodineValue,thoughIodineValueisquiteacrudeindicatorof> >>>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from >>>"www.hort.purdue.edu" claiming to be " >>> >>>http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_communis.html >>>Ricinus communis >>> >>> >>>The toxic principle is water-soluble so is not found in the oil. It's >>>also said to be a drying oil, the equal of tung oil, yet it has a >>>much lower Iodine Value, though Iodine Value is quite a crude >>>indicator of whether oils will polymerise or not and castor oil seems >>> >>>to be an exception. On the other hand it has a longstanding >>>reputation of being an excellent motor oil. >>> >>>This is an informative website about castor oil, and biodiesel generally: >>> >>>http://www.castoroil.in/uses/fuel/castor_oil_fuel.html >>> >>>Castor Oil as Biofuel & Biodiesel - Info, WWW Resources on Castoroil >>>as Bio-fuel, Bio-diesel >>> >>>Others: >>> >>>http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/afcm/castor.html >>>Castorbeans >>> >>>http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Ricinus+communis >>> >>>Ricinus communis >>> >>>http://snipurl.com/oeiu >>>The Hindu Business Line : Gujarat Oleo Chem bags Rs 25-cr biodiesel >>>order from IOC >>>Gujarat Oleo Chem bags Rs 25-cr biodiesel order from IOC >>>Mumbai , Aug 3 >>> >>> >>>http://www.tierramerica.net/2003/0526/ianalisis.shtml >>>Energy in a Castor Bean >>>The castor-oil plant, ricinus communis, is the best source for >>>creating "biodiesel", say Brazilian experts. >>> >>> >>><http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/278737-1.html>http:/ >>>/www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/278737-1.html >>>First electricity from castor oil: Patrick Knight reports on how the >>>biodiesel industry in Brazil is taking off. >>> From Oils & Fats International: Nov, 2004 issue >>> >>>Hope this helps. >>> >>>Best >>> >>>Keith >>> >>> >>[snip] > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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