Hi Keith and all; Well I should say something here for sure. Although my reactor design is quite different in the details of the way it is put together and the parts used it has all the functionality of Dale's touchless design and in fact it was his design that inspired me to do something similar. Ian's vacuum processor was another I looked at. Primarily I liked the fact that it could suck the methoxide in rather than it having to be forced in with pressure which gave me the willies thinking about what would happen if there was a leak and methoxide started spraying out somewhere. The other advantages i.e. in situ drying with high speed and all that were a bonus so I decided to do the same thing in my own way. I can't remember if I wrote to Dale or Ian, I think I might have but in any case they definitely inspired me and I would like to thank both of them for that. With regard to the high prices you mentioned for some of the stuff which is being sold (and doesn't work so great) some of the parts on my system are expensive but the costs of all the items are listed in the bill of materials and you can see how they add up. There is no profit taking anywhere obviously. Well I'm not selling anything anyhow. I couldn't quite follow the links to the Chinese site which details the reactor does it look any good? It doesn't sound like a vacuum processor so it can't really be compared to the touchless or Ian's or mine.
Joe Keith Addison wrote: > I don't know Wu Qing-Yuan or Yanson Corp in China, but he sent me > this message below without comment, I guess he wants some publicity. > I don't know if he checked it with Rudi first, but it says all over > our website that we're journalists after all. > > I couldn't get much sense out of Yanson's website, no pics that I > could find, but maybe someone else will do better. > > It sure does sound like a big improvement on the Appleseed, with all > its problems. Let alone the FuelMeister: > http://snipurl.com/h9ou > Re: [biofuel] Best Processer > > However, there's this, about the Appleseed, in a previous message: > > >>Uh, it's not the same as Dale's touchless processor. It's a cheapo >>rip-off of Dale's processor, which is not acknowledged by the people >>who promote it. > > -- See: "Re: [Biofuel] appleseed drainage" > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57690.html > > That's Biofuel list member Dale Scroggins, who designed the original > "Touchless processor": > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#touchfree > > That was in Jan 2001, and Dale announced it here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg02074.html > [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel - no catalyst > "Aw, shucks, it's really nothing special. Just a 100-liter processor > made from mostly salvaged materials that almost fills itself, mixes > everything, recovers the unused methanol, washes and dries the ester > pretty much by flipping a few switches. ;o)" -- Dale Scroggins, Thu, > 11 Jan 2001 > > It's still an advanced design, five years later. > > Maria "Girl Mark" Alovert produced her dumbed-down version of it late > in 2003. Six months later she wrote to me in connection with her > "Appleseed" reactor, as she now called it: "I want to write to dale > scroggins and point him to the things his touchless has spawned." I > don't know if she ever did write to Dale, but I've never heard of her > acknowledging that in public, maybe she has, but she sure doesn't > push it. > > Now the unacknowledged rip-off that doesn't work properly has been > fixed (probably) and is being mass-produced, "China patent pending". > But I'm sure Dale's part in it will remain unacknowledged. > > That's one reason I'm posting this message here. > > Another reason is that we established at the list that the > FuelMeister can be assembled from parts costing a few hundred > dollars, though Rudi sells it for $3,000 - er, sorry, that's only > $2,995 - plus all the add-ons that should be part of the package in > the first place. I wonder what he'll be charging for OEM Appleseeds > he pays $220 for? Girl Mark also sells her Appleseeds for about > $3,000. Rudi needs a new trick anyway, I see quite a few other people > flogging FuelMeister lookalikes in the US now, even if Josh doesn't > endorse them. > > Anyway, IMNSHO it's the people who get it right that will make the > difference and all this other stuff just doesn't matter in the long > run. I really don't care about some guy who's agonising over whether > to buy a FuelMeister or an Appleseed or just use DSE or Acusorb > beads, but on the other hand I suppose it's no bad thing if Rudi > junks the odious FuelMeister in favour of these neo-Appleseeds from > China. > > Best > > Keith > > > >>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT) >>From: yanson corp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: OEM-outsourcing (biodiesel) >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Hello Mr. Wu Qing-Yuan: >> >>I am the president of Biodiesel Solutions of Reno, NV, the home of >>the FuelMeister processor. 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Yanson also offers a patent pending house-designed all-metal >>one-size-fits-all skid on casters (a move-around platform work >>station with maximum work space) that can accommodate the >>whole homebrew apparatus of 50 gallon capacity, including >>RC/Appleseed, wash tank (55-gallon steel drum) and plumbing. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
