Sounds like a lot of great designing. The FeCl seems like fine material, the corrosiveness would require confinement in a materail that would be impervious.
I still keep going through Teton and Redrok information, I've looked through both a while back, Redrok (Duane Johnson) is where I got the suntracking electronics for my dish. And his site keeps growing and is worth going back to look at new ideas, plans and designs. Teton has a lot of great numbers for calculating essential number for a solar system, and are applicable easily to the "on the cheap" design I'm putting together. I'm interested in the least expensive windmill, I do get a fair amount of wind, even here in my valley, but it gusts from one side, then the other, and not very consistently from one direction. I studied the Savonius rotor and find it to be perhaps the best, for my locale, but my neighbor, who lives at the top of the hill has a good directional wind much of the time, is also interested in alternate energy, (he built his passive solar, earth bermed house over 20 years ago, donated a diesel truck to my experiment with biofuels, uses my biodiesel in his other diesel truck... and he'd benefit well from a windmill that would be able to produce some or all of his energy needs.) I take it that the 20X20 section of parabola is measured in feet? or inches? The 10' parabola that I'm using will ignite a 2"X4" stud in about 3 seconds. And makes smoke immediately. I have no thermometer that can actually give me the temperature of its focus, but I do know that I have no desire to feel the heat with my hand! LOL doug swanson Kirk McLoren wrote: > years ago I penciled a 20x20 section of a parabola (cassegrain) and > proposed storing thermal energy as latent heat in a m3 of FeCl. As I > recall it was comprable to 5 US gallons of gasoline. I think the phase > change was around 600F. Since the aperture to the thermal storage was > the focal point and it re expanded before hitting the receiving media > reradiation was reduced. Proposed insulation was foam glass which is > used commercially by the refrigeration industry. > The solar concentrator plans Teton has may be a good starting point. > Redrok is another good resource. > > > All the best > Kirk > > BTW photos of the worlds least expensive windmill for pumping water > should be soon. All I have left to do are the sails. Is basically a > Persian windmill but I have dispensed with the wall and made it > omnidirectional by making the sails self furling. A merrygoround and > bedsheets. > :) > > */doug swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > I agree that in tight times, basic or even primitive skills are more > valuable than gold. Basics in Agriculture, animal husbandry, health > maintenance, knowing how to preserve food without supplies you'd > have to > get at a grocer's store, blacksmithing, wood working, etc. are all > skills that should be present in what I see as being a new birth of > communities which will establish themselves once TEOTWAWKI happens. > > Energy systems can be a large part of this, since my wood heater > currently relies on a chainsaw to supply fuel, and my biodiesel > relies > on restaurant "wastes" and petro-derived methanol, and industry > produced > hydroxides, I still don't feel that my current situation is > sustainable. Solar makes a lot of sense in my location, and I've been > working in that direction, but with a twist. The 10' parabolic > collector can collect a lot of heat, and rather than convert it > immediately to electricity, which I'd then have to store in some > sort of > battery (with all the problems that batteries come with, ie. disposal > when they don't work anymore, and then having to acquire new > ones..., ) > it makes better sense to store the heat from the collector in 55 > gallon > drums of water, which can actually make up the rear greenhouse > wall... > > I've been studying Stirling engines for some time now, guess I've > read > everything that Google can show me about them, crammed all the ideas > into my head, noted the major disadvantages of most of them, (They've > got to be airtight, precision power piston, most aren't > self-starting, > etc...) and have come up with a design that addresses these problems, > and eliminates them by integrating much of the engine into 3 moving > parts. Heat goes in, electricity comes out. I really would like to > build the prototype, but can't afford a machine shop to make a > couple of > its parts. Maybe someone on this list has the right tools to make the > parts, and would like to see more detailed plans on this. Eventually, > when a working prototype is producing electricity, the plans with > step > by step guidance will be under the "open information license" The > point > of the whole system is that wherever possible, the parts should be > stuff > that can be found at the junkyard, and that when completed, a home > power > generation system is running for under 3-400 bucks. Adding another > collector just for home heat would be even simpler, under floor heat > circulation would increase the cost due to plumbing, thermostat > control, > etc., but if the hot water was just circulated through a radiator > (junkyard again) with a fan behind it, the home could be comfortable > without huge expense. > > The efficiency of a Stirling engine makes it a potential candidate > for a > hybrid vehicle, and I've been working on something along that line > also, > but first things first... > > Any ideas are welcome, anything I can do to help pull us out of > the mess > this planet is in, I will do. > > doug swanson > > > > Jason& Katie wrote: > > >you dont need money if you can supply a need. i know more than > just fuel, i > >can build just about anything a person would have as a daily > need. house, > >furniture, small macines, engine repair, anyone with a skill is > pretty well > >safe. it is the people who have never had to work a day in their > life (CEO's > >and politicians) that are screwed. > >Jason > >ICQ#: 154998177 > >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mike Weaver" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:01 PM > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] {Disarmed} Telegraph - US "could be going > bankrupt" > > > > > > > > > >>Um, it's not really "they" it's "us" too... > >> > >>Jason& Katie wrote: > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Next-gen email? 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