Water and air filters. Many respirators for working in environments  
with fumes, etc, have activated carbon in them. And, yes, they have  
been around for decades, Doug.

-John



On Jul 20, 2006, at 9:09 AM, bob allen wrote:

>
> I did a little hyway driving last weekend in my (really my wife's)
> Prius:  at 65 mph we got 54 mpg, 60 about 56 mpg and at 50 mph an
> honest 61+ mpg.  Essentially flat and windless conditions.
>
> Zeke Yewdall wrote:
>> Yeah, I know about the getting passed like you are standing still.  My
>> truck will do 65 to 70mph on the highway, which isn't bad for a 4
>> cylinder diesel engine -- probably rated at less horsepower than the
>> stock ford ranger engine in roughly the same size truck.   It was  
>> funny
>> driving it down through montana and wyoming to colorado -- in wyoming
>> and montana it was fine in the right lane, and the left lane wasn't  
>> that
>> much faster except for a few outlying speedsters.  But as soon as I
>> crossed the Colorado border, even the right lane was annoyed at me,  
>> and
>> the left lane was probably 15 to 20mph faster than me.
>>
>> On 7/19/06, *robert and benita rabello* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Zeke Yewdall wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't that interesting that the "North American driver" is willing to
>>> sacrifice the world and condemn billions of people to a slow painful
>>> death, rather than accept a 10% decrease in how fast they can go in
>>> their car....  Although I suppose they don't think of it that way.
>>
>>
>>         We just drove for 24 hours going to Los Angeles and back.   
>> It's hard
>>     to drive slow for that long on the open highway.  I put the cruise
>>     control on the Camry at 110 km / hour and averaged 6.2 liters /  
>> 100 km
>>     for the trip.  (That's a little over 40 mpg for you who are  
>> metrically
>>     challenged.)  Air conditioning and hills REALLY drain fuel  
>> economy, as
>>     does going fast.  My best fuel mileage occured on flat roads at  
>> 90 km /
>>     hour, where the car would easily do 5.5 liters / 100 km.  The  
>> only time
>>     we accomplished that kind of economy happened between San Jose  
>> and Paso
>>     Robles, which is a relatively flat section of highway.
>>
>>         But we were often getting passed like we were standing still!
>>
>>         Your remark is cogent.  I don't think people here actually  
>> make the
>>     connection between their driving habits and the impact these have  
>> on
>>     the
>>     earth.  We saw a fair number of hybrids on the trip--they're  
>> becoming
>>     more common now--and most of the people who were driving them  
>> tried to
>>     drive in a more sane manner than the rest of the folk on the  
>> freeway.
>>     In Los Angeles, however, the hybrids get to use the HOV lanes,  
>> and if
>>     you're not driving at least 120 km / hour, other motorists become  
>> rather
>>     annoyed!
>>
>>         I put the blower on my truck in part because I eventually  
>> intend to
>>     run it on some kind of gaseous fuel, but the best thing I can do  
>> with
>>     that machine is simply NOT drive it at all.  Working from home  
>> really
>>     helps . . .
>>
>>     robert luis rabello
>>     "The Edge of Justice"
>>     Adventure for Your Mind
>>     http://www.newadventure.ca
>>
>>     Ranger Supercharger Project Page
>>     http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
>>     <http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/>
>>
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