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About 20 plus years ago I worked in a fuel
farm and around a test stand that was testing - running a J-58 jet engine
that used JP-8 fuel and that stuff was loaded with PCBs, acts as a coolant for
the fuel as it burnes. Not uesr if it was an additive used just for this engine
or in all JP-8. The J-58 was the engines that were in the
SR-71.
Scared to post, Steve
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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:10
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Subject: [SPAM]: Re: [Biofuel] Fuel
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It looks and smells like absolutely brand new. Apparently
the additives in JP-8 include enough *-icide to keep it out. Also it was
sealed tightly with no air.
On 8/11/06, Kirk
McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I would expect any fuel that old to be half digested by bacteria.
Kirk
Are
we so strapped for fuel that we have to siphon 20 year old stuff out of
helicopters now??? I guess it does make more sense than
throwing it away, so I'd go for it. Since the main problem with
kerosene in diesel engines is lack of lubricity, I'd mix it with biodiesel
instead of diesel -- offset the low lubricity stuff with high lubricity
stuff. Also, the whole impetus behind the army developing
diesel motorcycles is apparently so they don't have to bring gasoline
along at all -- helicopters, tanks, dirt bikes, everything will run on the
same jet fuel
Z
On 8/11/06, Joe
Street <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Paul; I can't say for
sure but I have heard of the guys who work as ground crew at the
Tortonto airport putting jet fuel in their diesel cars. Apparently
fuel which is drained from wing tanks is not allowed to be put back in
so they often have some 'waste'. Joe Paul S Cantrell
wrote:
Good Afternoon all,
I have an interesting story for ya'll
today. I work at a small military college. Being a military
school, we have a tank, a personnel carrier, a rocket, several
howitzers, an F-4 Phantom, an anchor and a Huey Cobra helicopter on the
parade field. The helicopter is why I'm writing. It was
donated by the national guard 20 years ago and the engine was
removed. However, the FUEL was not removed. It smells like
kerosene. It is colorless/clear and dry, since the fuel tanks were
full and sealed the whole time. This discovery was made when we
decided to move it to pour a concrete pad for it.
A sample
weighs exactly 800 grams per liter (digital scale is +/-20 grams), so it
is too heavy to be JP4 (50% gasoline/50%kerosene + additives), too light
for diesel and about right to be JP8 (100% kerosene + additives).
I
referenced this website for densities of fuel:
http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_liquids.htm
I
have a 98 VW Jetta TDI that has half a tank of regualar #2 diesel in it
at the moment.
I know up north in the US the fuel companies mix
diesel with kerosene up to 50/50 in the winter time. Also, as I
understand it, the new ULSD is very similar to kerosene.
Should I
have any reservation mixing it up to 50/50 in my car? I don't
really, I just wanted to share the story and hear from ya'll.
No
real answers at the TDIClub website.
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are missing. - Gamal Abdel Nasser
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