i repair ice machines, trust me they are one of the filthiest pieces of 
equipment  
in a restaurant ,yet the easiest to keep clean. your neighborhood bar typicaly 
has the nastyest ice maker you will ever see. 
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From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Or dogs are smarter than people
> 
> Kirk McLoren wrote:
> 
> > Fast Food Ice Dirtier Than Toilet Water!
> >
> > Out of the mouths of babes comes this news. Budding scientist, 
> > 12-year-old Jasmine Roberts from Benito Middle School in Tampa, Fla., 
> > has created a science fair project that has lots of grown-ups sitting 
> > up and taking notice. Her conclusion: Ice at fast food restaurants is 
> > laced with bacteria. Lots of it.
> >
> > Tampa Bay Online reports that Roberts examined the amount of bacteria 
> > in the ice served at fast food restaurants and the amount of bacteria 
> > in the toilet bowl water in those same restaurants. The toilet bowl 
> > water was cleaner 70 percent of the time.
> >
> > Even Roberts found the results to be startling. She told Tampa Bay 
> > Online reporter Michele Sager, "I thought there might be a little 
> > bacteria in the ice, but I never expected it to be this much. And I 
> > never thought the toilet water would be cleaner."
> >
> > The study: Roberts collected ice samples from five fast food 
> > restaurants near the University of South Florida, including 
> > self-service dispensers inside the restaurants and in drinks served 
> > through the drive-through windows. Then she collected samples of water 
> > from the toilets in those same restaurants. All the samples were 
> > placed in sterile containers. She tested them in a lab at the H. Lee 
> > Moffitt Cancer Center, where she volunteers with a University of South 
> > Florida professor.
> >
> > The results: In four of the five restaurants, the ice that came from 
> > the self-service machines had more bacteria than the toilet water, 
> > reports Tampa Bay Online. Three of the five cups of ice from the 
> > drive-through windows had more bacteria than the toilet water. The 
> > bacteria in the ice included fecal coliform or E. coli, which can only 
> > come from the feces of warm-blooded animals.
> >
> > How did the bacteria get into the ice? Roberts suspects either the 
> > machine was not properly cleaned or an employee with soiled hands 
> > touched the ice.
> >
> > Geoff Luebkemann, the Florida state official whose agency is 
> > responsible for regulating hotels and restaurants, told Tampa Bay 
> > Online, "Ice machines are part of the health inspections. There are a 
> > lot of factors that have to be considered, like how accurately did she 
> > gather and test her specimens. Plus, comparing the ice to toilet water 
> > can be misleading because there are acceptable levels of bacteria for 
> > water."
> >
> > Not so says Galina Tuninskaya, vice president of Applied Consumer 
> > Services, a private lab that tests drinking water. "No levels of fecal 
> > coliform or E. coli are acceptable," she told Tampa Bay Online. "If 
> > you find that, you've got a problem."
> >
> > In case you wondered, Roberts won the science fair
> > http://www.talk-history.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1990
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