Hi D...Hi Zeke...what if? sometimes it seems to be such a stupid question, until we are confronted personally with what seems to be the unexplainable, but unexplainable only in terms (and experience) we have previously used to explain our experience.  I might also ask, who was doing the explaining and to whom?  I wonder at times that as much as the planet and especially its peoples seem to be in such a state of disrepair and irrevocable decline that all is just a whisper nearer to something happening that is seemingly so absurd a great silence might occur as we stand in wonderment at the intense reality of it.  "Only in my dreams," will say the naysayers, "only in my dreams."  So be it then, perhaps, for now, but maybe not the next now.  Mike DuPree
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG

> Hi Zeke,
>   I have heard stories too of sudden healings. And if you have read of
> Arigo, a healer of Brazil (died in a car accident), these things can be
> very real. He would do eye operations, very quickly, with a pen knife. As
> far as I know
> he always was successful. He had long lines of people everyday waiting
> to have major healings. People who tried to show he was a fraud came
> away amazed. For a real unusual read, read The Autobiography of a Yogi.
> I read five pages then stopped since I thought it was bs. But a few days
> later,
> I picked it up and continued reading. It's an unforgettable adventure but
> you
> will have to suspend your skepticism until you get halfway through the book.
> By then you'll realize that the author is being totally honest.
> Peace, D. Mindock
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zeke Yewdall
> To:
biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG
>
>
> I have mixed feelings about homeschooling.  I was homeschooled until
> college, and everyone I knew who was homeschooled was one of the people
> blowing the curve on the college physics and engineering courses.  All that
> means is that in my limited sample (about five people) the homeschoolers who
> went on to college, did well academically.  Doesn't say anything about the
> ones who didn't go to college.  Or whether we were as socially adjusted
> (actually, in most cases, none of us fit in as well in college, but whether
> that was from being homeschooled, or just because we were the nerds of the
> class, I don't know).    I think in general, if you have good teachers (both
> my parent's taught public school before homeschooling me), homeschooling can
> be beneficial, because you get alot more individual teacher attention, and
> you can work all aspects of your life into learning, instead of thinking of
> school as somewhere you go, separate from other stuff you do.   However,
> almost everyone else that I know who has been homeschooled, it was done for
> religious reasons, rather than travel reasons (for us the nearest bus pickup
> was a two hour hike in the wintertime when the road was closed, plus another
> hour and half on the bus).  Now, in general I dislike organized religions
> because of their tendancy to make peopel closed minded and tell them what to
> think instead of how to think, and I would think that being homeschooled for
> religious purposes would increase this tendancy in people, but I've actually
> found it to be the opposit.  I have a friend who was homeschooled who is
> quite conservative and believes in an immanent god (theologicaly, this means
> a god that intercedes in the day to day activities of people, as opposed to
> one who created everything then stepped aside).  Yet, I can have a
> discussion with her about evolution or history or such, and though neither
> of us really change our minds, it is not just a battle of incompatible
> beliefs, but an actual intellectual discussion.  She's also not very fond of
> organized religion either.  And honestly, she has had things happen to her
> do give pretty strong evidence of an imanent god, something that I don't
> really believe in.  Like tearing the tendons in her wrist, and not being
> able to lift anything with one hand for over a year.  Then while she was
> India, an old priestess prayed over her, and overnight, it was as strong as
> the other hand again (I know because she helped me move ten 200 lb solar
> thermal collectors when she came back).  This is after a doctor here told
> her she needed surgery to ever use that hand again.  Even with my belief in
> both science, and the power of positive thinking in self healing, this is a
> strange story to believe if I hadn't seen it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/29/06, robert and benita rabello <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kirk McLoren wrote:
>
>> Homeschoolers represent 20% of those being schooled last time I
>> checked the statistics
>> Homeschoolers represent 80% of the high achievers.
>>
>> Doesnt speak well for your system.
>> I think you are in denial.
>> Our school system suks and you know it.
>
>
>    That all depends on what you're measuring, how you're measuring, and
> WHERE you're measuring.  The pervasive social inequities in the United
> States (and Canada too, for that matter) are not reflected to the same
> degree among homeschoolers as they are in the public schools.  You're
> not making a fair comparison because you're looking at very different
> populations.
>
>    Further, I have experience with several families who have
> homeschooled their children, and in every case, it was a disaster.  Both
> of my boys are school aged, one of them is in public school and the
> other one is in a private school, so I know both sides of that coin.
> The system works, if you work with it.
>
> robert luis rabello
>
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