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Mike,
I meant to say: Make
for yourself a great reality. But making yourself a great reality is ok
too. It
is all the same in the end. I really love
this. I like that sentiment, Let Go--Let God. I do that when
I feel like I am holding on to too many
burdens from the past.
Thanks too to you & others in
this thread. And especially our host Keith for Journey To
Forever.
Peace and joy, D. Mindock
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Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:47
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence)
Hi D and List...thank
you. Thank ALL of you. Yes, make myself a great reality or,
perhaps more accurately, let myself be that great reality, making myself that
great reality thereby.
I accept I am highly unskilled along these lines. Too often "I" get
in the way of "Us." Too often I see only the specific, the
isolated object, and act inappropriately, failing to
ask how might I help the specific resolve itself into the
truth of our connection.
I'm reminded of the saying, "Let Go--Let God." I hope somehow
my remembrance and use of this exhortation within the context I am
using it is clearly understood. Too often it used as an
excuse to set aside personal responsibility and that is not my
intent. To the contrary, I advocate the ultimate responsibility:
let myself become the great reality.
To anyone I may have offended because I let myself get in
the way of understanding the individual's connection to ALL, I ask
your forgiveness and I thank you for giving me the opportunity to better
understand how I might better understand how I am connected to ALL. Mike
DuPree
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:07
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
Closed-Mindedness (WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence)
Hi Mike,
Quantum physics seems to
be verifying much of metaphysical concepts. The idea of everything
being
connected is one such idea.
Actually experiencing it is life changing. The idea of all things being
intimately
connected is then no longer an
abstract thing, but real. Things like war or killing another human are no longer possible.
Killing another becomes killing yourself. War is seen as
a monstrosity. Peace &
cooperation become as natural as breathing.
Probably the
way to go is to always assume the best intentions wrt messages via
email or on this list. Email is a stripped of a lot of feeling and can be easily misconstrued. Joe does an
admirable job of getting his ideas across with email. I still am learning how to use email so that I don't
offend. This forum is good learning experience for me.
Yep, experiencing the
feeling of all pervasive connectedness becomes a knowing, beyond faith.
So
it becomes part of your intrinsic
makeup--your being. This connectedness extends to your own
soul/spirit.
I heard Deepak Chopra speak last
week. He presents this idea of Unity in a stunningly clear way
via
quantum physics and his knowledge of
the human body. He is a endocrinologist, one of the best in the
world. Nothing beats actually
experiencing it, but listening to him explain it led to a-ha
moments.
We do create our
own reality. So make yourself a great reality.
Peace & light, D.
Mindock
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:48
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
Closed-Mindedness (Was HypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as
Evidence)
Hey D...I hear
ya. Much is lost oftentimes in the written word, especially tone of
voice and other body language, so I sometimes don't know if I'm running up
against a real arrogance or genuine inquiry. Nonetheless, I agree
that objections to our beliefs and feelings, especially as they shape our
perceptions of what is, can only be clarified if indeed we are truly
"open-minded." In that regards, I recognize I am very "close-minded"
about one thing, our connection to all that is. But curiously, this
makes me very "open-minded" to both the probabilities and possibilities
inherent within those connections, an attitude I find lacking in our dear
self-professed archetype/cultural icon Bob and so many folks. And I
wonder that it is because of this that we face so many of the "problems"
that we do today or ever. I'm satisfied, however, that it doesn't
matter. What is true is true, and ours is not to make it so, but
only to realize it. Not an easy task being human. Thanks for
your many posts D. Mike DuPree
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:51 AM
Subject: Re:
[Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis
asAnesthesiaWasTestimonials
as Evidence)
> Yo Mike,
> I'm a night owl.
I go to bed at dawn. Four years working rotating shifts
> as a
weather
> forecaster has totally screwed up whatever body clock I
had. I was a
> preemie
> and the
> lights were on all
the time. That was the first assault on my body clock.
>
Bob is Bob (did Joe say that first?) is all I can say. He doesn't seem
> to
> give much credence to people's experience or opinions
based on experience
> and at the same time he has too much faith in
science. These
> are my opinions and I know they don't adequately
express what is
> percolating
> in the back of
> my
head. But I do like Bob. I think he does help us as we try to
formulate
> our
> beliefs and feelings in things far more
important than scientific data.
> Peace, D.
Mindock
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:59 AM
>
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as
>
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>
>
>> Love
your sense of humor D, ie Bob's love of data etc at times being
"awe
>> inspiring." But Bob might consider your comments
awful. It's 4am as I
>> write this, and I'm awfully
tired. Mike DuPree
>>
>> ----- Original Message
-----
>> From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:33 AM
>>
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as
Anesthesia
>> WasTestimonials as
Evidence)
>>
>>
>>> Yep, I too admire
scientists, real truth seeking ones, not those who can
>>>
be
>>> bought to produce desired
>>> outcomes. My
degree is in science, atmospheric. Basically I am trained
>>>
to
>>> run computer
>>> models of the atmosphere
and to enhance the models so they correlate
>>>
more
>>> closely to
>>> reality. Reality, aka
Nature, is the gold standard.
>>> Bob is wound a bit tight but
that might come from trying to pour
>>>
knowledge
>>> into hung-over
>>> college students.
His love of data, results from scientific studies, is
>>>
awe
>>> inspiring at times.
>>> Peace, D.
Mindock
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original
Message -----
>>> From: "Joe Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:34
AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis
as Anesthesia Was
>>> Testimonials as
Evidence)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi
Kurt;
>>>>
>>>> Pardon my snipping style
but.....
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Nolte
wrote:
>>>>
snip
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On
the other side we have his opponents, among them Joe Street,
Terry
>>>>>Dyck, Mike Dupree and D. Mindock, to name a
few off the top of my head.
>>>>>These people seem to
be, to the best of my knowledge, claiming
that
>>>>>herbs (The topic at hand) are the /only/
things that are truly
>>>>>efficacious as medicinal
compounds, and that pharmaceuticals produced
>>>>>by
>>>>>synthetic processes just
don't hack
it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
Actually I don't believe I ever said that! I am opposing Bob to
some
>>>> degree but that doesn't mean I said what you are
attributing to me, or
>>>> I
>>>> guess
more correctly that you should be lumping me in with what you
are
>>>> saying about the others. I am very
scientifically inclined, I run a
>>>> university lab for
pete's sake as well but I am also a sceptic of the
>>>>
idea that science is the be all and end all or that it has all
the
>>>> answers. I still have great respect for
science and believe that one
>>>> day it may encompass
things that it currently can't explain. All I am
>>>>
suggesting to Bob is that even though science cannot explain
something
>>>> at the present time, that does not mean it
must necessarily be
>>>> rejected. I think this is
the only point on which Bob and I are in
>>>>
dissagreement. I also wouldn't say it is fair to be calling Bob
closed
>>>> minded. Stubborn yes but narrow or closed
minded, no.
>>>>
>>>>
Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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