D. Mindock wrote:
> Here is a treasure trove of the fallacies of vaccination. If some weak 
> people insist on getting
> vaccinated, fine. But it goes over the line when they force others to get 
> vaccinated as well. And that
> is what is happening. Big Pharma wants total control of your body. And they 
> are inducing weak
> politicians to make the laws necessary.
> http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/vaccines.htm
>   

here is a gem from your antivax site:


*HOMEOPATHY IS RENOWNED FOR ITS ABILITY TO REDUCE OR REPAIR THE DAMAGE 
CAUSED BY VACCINES LIKE NOTHING ELSE CAN !* Homeopathy 
<http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/homeopat.htm>is noted for its 
success to antidote or remove the toxic effects of vaccines and to 
re-establish balance in the organism and restore health. Certain 
homeopathic remedies taken after/ /vaccination can minimize vaccine 
damage. A professional homeopath 
<http://www.homeopathy-cures.com/html/referrals_to_homeopaths.html> 
should be consulted for more. 


what a joke.   Homeopathy is the easiest of "alt ernative medicines to 
discredit. Anyone who can count, should understand.



> &
> >From AAPS:
>   

what is the AAPS ?  google gives numerous organisations that  use those 
initials

> The Physician's Desk Reference cites adverse reactions to the hepatitis B in 
> less than 1 percent. However, if more than 70 million American children 
>   
> receive the vaccine, that means more than 700,000 children are likely to 
> suffer adverse reactions.
>   
Hepatitis B virus (HBV) is a common cause of liver disease throughout 
the world. An estimated one third of the world's population has 
serologic evidence of past infection, and the virus causes more than 1 
million deaths annually.1 In the United States, the incidence of HBV 
infection declined from about 14 cases per 100,000 population in the 
mid-1980s to about three cases per 100,000 population in 1998.2 However, 
there are still 1.25 million adults and children in the United States 
with chronic HBV infection. 


> Children are a very low risk group for hepatitis B.
unless exposed during birth:

>  Primary risk factors are 
> dependent on lifestyle, i.e. multiple sex partners, drug abuse or an 
> occupation with exposure to blood.
>   


http://www.doh.state.fl.us/disease_ctrl/immune/hep_b/index.htm

HBV infection is a serious health problem in the United States. 
Transmission of HBV from mother to infant during the perinatal period 
confers the greatest risk of chronic infection or death from HBV-related 
chronic liver disease. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 
(CDC) estimates that between 454 and 751 HBsAg-positive Florida women 
give birth each year; without prophylaxis, 45-100 infants would become 
infected with HBV. Ninety to 95 percent of these potential infections 
may be avoided through appropriate maternal screening and infant 
immunoprophylaxis.


> Rampant conflicts of interest in the approval process has been the subject 
> of several Congressional hearings, and a recent Congressional report 
> concluded that the pharmaceutical industry has indeed exerted undue 
> influence on mandatory vaccine legislation toward its own financial 
> interests.
>
> The vaccine approval process has also been contaminated by flawed or 
> incomplete clinical trials, and government officials have chosen to ignore 
> negative results. For example, the CDC was forced to withdraw its 
> recommendation of the rotavirus vaccine within one year of approval. Yet 
> public documents obtained by AAPS show that the CDC was aware of alarmingly 
> high intussuception rates months before the vaccine was approved and 
> recommended.
>
> Mandatory vaccines violate the medical ethic of informed consent. A case 
> could also be made that mandates for vaccines by school districts and 
> legislatures is the de facto practice of medicine without a license.
>
> The CDC's own "Guide to Contraindications to Childhood Vaccination" warns 
> that when assessing children's common symptoms, "if any one of them is a 
> contraindication, DO NOT VACCINATE" [caps added]. And yet, under legislated 
> mandates, the vaccines are still required.
>
> End AAPS excerpt.
>
> IMO, mandatory vaccinations are not Constitutional. We have nothing if we 
> have no control over our own
> bodies against outside forces. If my home is my castle, then what is my 
> body?
>   
part of a public health program?


> Peace, D. Mindock  P.S. Marilynn, thanks for this topic as it hits home to 
> what this country is becoming.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marylynn Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
>
>
>   
>> All those bumper stickers loudly proclaiming that Abortion Is Not A 
>> Medical
>> Procedure has always made me wonder if the average individual actually 
>> knows
>> that Childbirth is Not a Medical Procedure Either.
>>
>> Historically the midwife (mid-wiff-ery) or the village medicine woman
>> assisted with the help of the women of the family .. but back a couple of
>> thousand years with the rise of the church any woman with herbal knowledge
>> was branded as a witch and disposed of .. and THEN the church got to
>> confiscated any property she may have owned .. glory be.
>>
>> .. and so the present day medical profession was born .. and the medical
>> profession will tell you all the horror stories about all the things that
>> can go wrong in gory detail.
>>
>> The reality is that things can go wrong with a tooth extraction but the
>> majority of births in the majority of countries are normal, go well and 
>> the
>> living child is healthy.
>>
>> It almost sounds as if the hospital environment was a well timed hostage
>> situation with that "paper work".
>>
>> Perhaps it is time to reconsider finding a midwife.
>>
>> .. Or .. I don't have the details right now, but I believe a congresswoman
>> (forgotten name for now) DEMANDED that the vaccine safety studies include
>> the 3 separate non-vaccinated groups that exist here in the United States
>> and be compare, side by side with those that have been vaccinated.
>>
>> .. the pharmas & company have been reluctant to include them in their
>> studies .. humm
>>
>> One large group is the Amish .. a Second large group is the Home Schooled 
>> ..
>> and the Third group was a medical practice in the Illinois/Kansas area.
>>
>> Medical doctors who assist in your home who do not vaccinate .. wow .. you
>> would wonder why the AMA hasn't shut those suckers down!!
>>
>> Mary Lynn
>> Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister
>> ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
>> TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification 
>> .
>> Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy 
>> Practitioner
>> . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity .
>> The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
>> http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
>> http://allcreatureconnections.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> From: "Jason& Katie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:14:44 -0500
>>>
>>> it was in kansas city about a month ago, all of the stuff was standard
>>> issue, but the fact that i couldnt be involved because of HIPAA really
>>> pissed me off. i had already threatened to hurt one of the clerks because
>>> they couldnt legally tell me, ME- HER FRAGGING HUSBAND!, anything about my
>>> wife's health in the months prior to the birth. i dont like to talk about
>>> it, it just makes me mad again.
>>> Jason
>>> ICQ#:  154998177
>>> MSN:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "robert and benita rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] THE TRUTH BEHIND THE VACCINE COVER-UP
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Jason& Katie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> they made my wife sign the papers for the boys' vaccinations when she
>>>>>           
>>> was
>>>       
>>>>> in
>>>>> labor.  just exactly how in the hell is someone supposed to read all
>>>>>           
>>> that
>>>       
>>>>> legal garbage when they are in recurring intense pain?
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>    That's ridiculous!
>>>>
>>>>    Where did this happen?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> they wouldnt let me
>>>>> read any of it, and said since i was not the patient, i could not sign
>>>>> anything. out of paranoia i demanded to see all the labels before the
>>>>> vaccines were used, but they were single doses only good for about an
>>>>>           
>>> hour
>>>       
>>>>> outside of refrigeration, and had no preservatives, but it still makes
>>>>>           
>>> me
>>>       
>>>>> mad.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>    When were the vaccinations administered?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> ANYWAYS, back to my original thought, i had a lot of sleeping problems
>>>>>           
>>> and
>>>       
>>>>> supposed ADD when i was in school, but i also had a really rotten habit
>>>>>           
>>> of
>>>       
>>>>> only eating one huge meal a day(dinner), and surviving on caffeine
>>>>>           
>>> drinks
>>>       
>>>>> during classtime. hmm, i wonder why i had so many problems growing 
>>>>> up...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>    As I had written:  Learning problems are often the result of complex
>>>> interactions . . .
>>>>
>>>> robert luis rabello
>>>> "The Edge of Justice"
>>>> Adventure for Your Mind
>>>> http://www.newadventure.ca
>>>>
>>>> Ranger Supercharger Project Page
>>>> http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
>>>>
>>>>
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