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An addendum...no water with the
scotch...as I said, I drink it "neat" or straight up. Not sure how that
got into my thoughts on uses of distilled water...perhaps from memories of an
earlier time when I was first acquiring the taste for it with blended Dewar's
and water. Ah well...been a weird day today. MD
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:00
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness
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Hi Tom...thanks for this
post and especially your concern. I probably shouldn't have said
anything. We've owned a distiller for years and have always enjoyed how
the distilled water seems to make more pronounced the flavors of coffee,
frozen oranje juice, various broths, stews, etc etc, and oh yeah, one of my
favorites--scotch (single malt...Glen Moray, 12 year....neat...two
fingers...in the evening....delicious). Never worry about (or taste)
anything between the water and our drink. But then I've always
wondered about any leaching of stuff from my body, especially the bad stuff,
because lord knows I dump enough vitamins and minerals in there to replace
many times over whatever of the good stuff might be leached. Of course,
I walk daily, getting ready to go out now in fact and keep myself in shape in
part that way. I don't know, annual visits to my traditional westernized
doc keep producing "healthy" results, except I have struggled with cholesterol
until the last exam which was preceded by flax seed, soy milk, and increased
exercise for several months prior to the exam and my cholesterol (the bad
stuff) was way down, although the good stuff wasn't high enough for me,
but my doc said it was okay.
Anyway, I'm going into all this to try and round
out a big picture. I know our water is a major piece of our
overall health picture and my choices dictate distilled. I
don't trust the bottled water stuff. I sure as heck don't trust the tap
water. Your speaker's artificially softened water claims don't
surprise me at all. I suppose I could go out and buy reverse
osmosis which just sounds too weird to me. In the end, I suppose I have
to nod to the "Bob" in me and request the data, the research, the
unequivocal science that says, hey buddy, distilled bad. Even then, like
I've said up front, I'd still be closed minded on this. Something about
distilled water is just too simple, too clean, too clear, and really
refreshing.
But Tom, again, I mean this when I say it, thank you, thank you for your
concern. It means everything to me. I hope you believe me.
Mike DuPree
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:14
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
Closed-Mindedness (Was HypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as
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Mike,
You wrote:
"Plenty of other stuff to be drinking, like....uh,
water....distilled of course...I know I know minerals etc
etc...hey...distilled....period..."
Please, no.
This goes back
many years, but I heard a presentation by a Dr. Shapiro of the Univ. of
Pittsburgh School of Public Health in which he suggested that softened, or
worse, distilled water increases one's risk of cardiovascular disease. His
conclusion was based on studies of communities that "softened" their water
and then went back to "hard" water. There was an increase in cardiovascular
disease in the years following treatment to soften the water. There was a
decrease in cardiovascular disease in the years following reverting back to
hard water. (Zinc may have been the key element.)
I
believe that this is why cold water lines .... for drinking
and food prep ...... bypass water softeners when the water
softeners are properly installed.
There
has been much discussion about practices that grow healthful foods, and
processing that compromises the healthfulness of our food.
Please consider the water you drink
as well. If you do not have access to good, healthful water, and distilled
is your best option, I wonder if there is a way to restore it to a more
natural state. I know that some beer brewers living in municipalities that
soften their water, add something to restore the minerals.
Wishing you good health,
Tom
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis asAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as
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Hi D and Mike...isn't
homogenized milk whipped up into incredibly small particles that actually
scar the lining of the esophagus and arteries, thereby, allowing
cholesterol to more easily coagulate along the linings? Whether or not it
does, I say "soy milk." I know I know...tastes terrible, to
some. But I only use it on cereals and a couple of desserts.
Plenty of other stuff to be drinking, like....uh, water....distilled
of course...I know I know minerals etc
etc...hey...distilled....period...and don't bother me about taste...if you
can taste it, it ain't water you're tasting! Yeah, I'm closed minded
on this one!! LOL Mike DuPree
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel]
Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as AnesthesiaWasTestimonials as
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> Hi Mike,
> I think
Weston Price would say to drink raw milk. When
> milk is pastuerized
and homogenized, it becomes harmful
> to the body. So those drinking
less of the bad milk in the
> Harvard study would actually be better
off.
> Myself, I don't drink milk unless I can get it raw and
organic.
> Also, even better, is to add kefir culture to it. I think
the Hunzas
> drink their milk cultured, not straight up.
>
Peace, D. Mindock
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:12 PM
>
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia
> WasTestimonials as Evidence)
>
>
>> From
the can't-help-but-stick-my-toe-in dept.
>>
>>
Caveat: No proof other than what I've read over the
years.
>>
>> It has always seemed to me that the
maladies that people suffer from are
>> in large part due to
environment/lifestyle. In the third world,
>> disease is
far more likely to be as a result of the lack of food and
>>
adequate nutrition, wheras in the developed world, we suffer from
the
>> diseaeses of affluence: diabetis being the one that
comes to mind,
>> along with obesity-related ailments such as
heart disease, high blood
>> pressure, strokes and so on.
Smoking is another factor.
>>
>> Another interesting
item, from Harvard University's website:
>>
>> In
particular, these studies suggest that high calcium intake
doesn't
>> actually appear to lower a person's risk for
osteoporosis. For example,
>> in the large Harvard studies of
male health professionals and female
>> nurses, individuals who
drank one glass of milk (or less) per week were
>> at no greater
risk of breaking a hip or forearm than were those who
>> drank
two or more glasses per week.(2, 3
>> <http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html#references>)
>> Other studies have found
similar results.
>>
>> It is odd human beings are the
only animal that develop "a disease" if
>> they don't eat the
milk of another species. Dogs don't need cat
milk.
>>
>> bob allen
wrote:
>>
>>>Howdy
Terry,
>>>
>>>Terry Dyck
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>HI
Bob,
>>>>
>>>>The Western world has the
highest rate of Cancer, Heart disease,
>>>>Diabetes,
>>>>Respiratory problems and
other ailments in the
world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>oh
really, and your source for these "facts" is? are the data
age
>>>adjusted, etc. and just what "other" ailments are
included. This is the
>>>issue I have with you and
others, you make what I feel are overly broad
>>>statements as
fact, without little or no support. So give
me
>>>reference or two so I can draw my own
conclusions.
>>>
>>>or how about just statistic at
a time to discuss. How about age
>>>adjusted
cancer rates? (age adjusting is necessary as cancer
is
>>>essentially inevitable, the longer you live the more
likely you are to
>>>get
cancer.
>>>
>>>
>>> show
me the data
please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
On the other hand
>>>>there is a valley in the middle of
the Himalayan mountains called
>>>>Hunzaland
>>>>that is an almost disease
free area.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I have
heard this canard before. I googled hunzaland and about the
only
>>>thing I got were people hawking their particular
"cure"
>>>
>>>
The Apricot Kernel Anti-Cancer Theory
>>>
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/land_of_hunza.htm
>>>
>>>or how about 160+
year
olds
>>>http://www.arthritis-nature-cure.com/people.htm
>>>
>>>do
really believe that? really, you don't think someone could be
less
>>>than forthright to make a point about a product the
promote?
>>>
>>>or maybe it's the magnetized
water
>>>http://www.stopcancer.com/magnetpHFoundation2.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
A pure organic food diet and almost no
>>>>pollution could
be the reason for people having good
health.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>or
it could all be a bunch of hype. How do we know with out
better
>>>documentation?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Bob
Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob
>>>>>=========================================================
>>>>>The
modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises
in
>>>>>moral philosophy; that
is,
>>>>>the search for a superior moral justification
for selfishness JKG
>>>>>
>
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