Hi Bob,

New Zealand must be the perfect place to live.  You have won awards for 
environmental projects and you are planting seeds to grow diesel trees.  
Congratulations.  Those beaches you mentioned could be in trouble, though, 
when the sea rises.

Terry Dyck


>From: "Bob Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil
>Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:48:43 +1300
>
>Jeez Mike,
>                    No, definitely not New Zealand, we've limited our 
>population to four million and we only have an area just a little larger 
>than the British Isles. Besides we've got an anti-nuclear policy and live 
>under an ozone hole for much of the summer. Anyway we've got too much water 
>and forest and mountains and stuff, the South Pole is just over the 
>horizon, we've got all these beaches that nobody uses, deer and horses and 
>pig that run wild, eels in every stream, fish coming out of our ears and 
>sheep everywhere. You'd hate it.
>Trust me,
>Bob.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: M&K DuPree
>   To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>   Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:07 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Major Problems Of Surviving Peak Oil
>
>
>   See Stephen Leeb's The Coming Economic Collapse: How You Can Thrive When 
>Oil Costs $200 a Barrel.  Leeb would have us buying stocks in various 
>companies because that's his business.  The points he makes about why the 
>price of oil must rise to levels far beyond we know today are my reason for 
>directing our attention to the book.  It really does come down to a massive 
>population growing exponentially and an economic model promoted by the USA. 
>  Bottom line is, we're screwed, at least as far as the world as we've 
>known it run on oil is concerned.  Maybe all the JTF List could put our 
>money, talents, and lives together on some remote island or somewhere in 
>New Zealand and start something that might survive through the coming chaos 
>and become a beacon of hope to the world.  Use the JTF Credo as our basis 
>for community life.  I'm serious!  What, aint gonna happen???  Ah well, to 
>unquote something the bard didn't say, all's not well that doesn't end 
>well.  Ah well... Mike DuPree
>


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