I have a oil stove but it is not hooked up and i was not planning to use it (oil here is $3/gl with 100gal min delivery) With out a auto feeder wood chips do not last. I did find that I can burn large wood chunks 4inch cube-ish). They give a nice large heat impulse that lasts for about 3 hours a cube.
Mike Weaver wrote: >I used to burn it until a chemist really advised me not to. You are >correct that it can be done safely - I just don't feel comfortable with >the set up I have. I had though about using a ram like you would use >for making rammed earth bricks and mixing sawdust and glc. > >Now I do burn hardwood chips packed firmly into a paper bag. Okay >during the day but won't last over night. > >Keith had some on JTF with more info. matbe there is a safe process there. > >I have a furnace blower/injection burning device - I was planning to >tear it down and clean it - I have thought of burning 80% filtered WVO >16% RUG and 4% Isoprop, probably mixed with some BD and perhaps #1 HO to >keep it thinned out. Good Winter bench project. > >-Mike > >Jeromie Reeves wrote: > > > >>Ah thats not good. The operating temp of the stove is ~400~750F so that >>should be ok but it worries >>me.. What about pure veggie oil or bio-diesel? It could be possible to >>make pellets with such. Anyone >>know much about screw type presses like a meat grinder or sausage press? >>I am thinking something >>like that would work better for pellet making then the die press type. >> >>Jeromie >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>On Friday, November 03, 2006 9:04 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>*burning glycerin produces the toxic gas acrolein >>>> >>>>Probably not a good idea... >>>>* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>If you burn it hot enough the gas will not be a problem: >>> >>>http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Now that is a left field idea. They would surely make the wood to the >>>>>correct size. I did no think they put off that much methane. >>>>>I know they put off naptha. The time to produce workable material would >>>>>be long, or need a very large setup. Time I can >>>>>manage over summer, space I have little of. I wonder how well the >>>>>pellets would soak up WVO/Glycerin? I could use far less >>>>>if they soaked up enough to burn hotter. That makes me wonder if the >>>>>auger pipe is hot enough to help wick the fire down into >>>>>the hopper? Its surely worth a few tests and trials. What would be >>>>>"better" as far as stability in a hot (150F) tube, WVO or >>>>>glycerin? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Jeromie >>>>> >>>>>Joe Street wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hey Jeromie; >>>>>> >>>>>>Look into termites. Yeah I'm not joshin you. Feed termites with the >>>>>>wood and bind the dust they make with the glycerin. If you put the >>>>>>termite pile in a sealed container then you can harvest the methane >>>>>>the termites produce and use it as fuel as well ;) >>>>>> >>>>>>Joe >>>>>> >>>>>>Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dave: Nice link, you solved one of the issue, what to use as a binder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jason: That is a very interesting idea. I was under the impression that >>>>>>>WVO does not burn clean due to the FFA's. >>>>>>>I was thinking of adding a burn ring to the stove so that it can do >>>>>>>waste oil burning but that too looked not to >>>>>>>burn clean enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If WVO/Glycerin will burn clean enough then that mix should work well. >>>>>>>Now to find a method to chip branches >>>>>>>down to the needed size and not use more energy doing it then the final >>>>>>>product gives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jeromie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jason& Katie wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>what if some kind of sausage packer type press could be made for a mix >>>>>>>>of >>>>>>>>sawdust and WVO or glycerine? >>>>>>>>Jason >>>>>>>>ICQ#: 154998177 >>>>>>>>MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:15 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You can probably create press of some type based on this concept: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://www.newdawnengineering.com/website/paper/brick/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Paper, saw dust, straw, etc. Plus, won't corn work as well? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-dave >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:35 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:35:35 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>From: Jeromie Reeves >>>>>>>>>>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [Biofuel] Pellet fuel options >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hello. Does anyone else use a pellet stove? Prices have jumped this >>>>>>>>>>year >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>from $2.25~2.75 to $4.75+ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>That fairly dries up the reason to have/use the stove (cheaper cleaner >>>>>>>>>>fuel then oil/propane/classic wood) >>>>>>>>>>I am looking for other fuel options. I would love to produce my own >>>>>>>>>>pellets as I have access to tons of >>>>>>>>>>waste wood but it needs at least a season to be ready. I also have not >>>>>>>>>>been able to find a pellet machine >>>>>>>>>>that was not a million dollar investment. I have been thinking of >>>>>>>>>>using >>>>>>>>>>straw and hay as we have plenty >>>>>>>>>>of it here. Also there is a small personal mill in town that makes a >>>>>>>>>>fair bit of sawdust. Does anyone know >>>>>>>>>>of a pellet press or know of a way to make one? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Jeromie >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
