was it fresh oil or fryer oil? is your methanol TOTALLY dry? how carefully was your titration measured? i smell water in the mix... theres really no such thing as "blowing it"- just a simple slip of the hand or a little bit of missed timing- the insignificant little quirks of life that add up at the end. no big deal, just take good records and keep on moving. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Please explain (I blew it)
> Now that the mixture has completely settled, I have 4 layers. The top is > now > clear methanol, the middle and largest layer is a clear, bright amber > color > (I assume this is methyl esters) the bottom two layers all small layers, > one > appears to be emulsion (yellow, gummy looking) and the very bottom appears > to be a cloudy white phase. > > Again, can someone tell me what is going on? > > Bobby > > >>From: "Bobby Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>Subject: [Biofuel] Please explain (I blew it) >>Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:58:24 -0500 >> >>So this is my first batch of biodiesel that went bad because of an >>incomplete reaction. So, just for grins I took some of the emulsion and >>mixed it with about 25% methanol in a jar. Within seconds the emulsion >>sank >>to the bottom, and now I have three layers: a slightly cloudy, clear phase >>on the top (I assume the methanol), a clear amber phase in the middle (I >>assume methyl esters) and a small layer of mayonnaise on the bottom (I >>assume part of the emulsion). Can anyone explain what is going on here? >>Can >>I take the middle layer and just process it a little further (with some >>methoxide)? If I have what I think, this may be a good way to salvage >>emulsified batches. >> >>Bobby >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Use your PC to make calls at very low rates >>https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.2/528 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.2/528 - Release Date: 11/10/2006 _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
