Oh yeah, that Diogenes ....
Honestly, Best to you,
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirk McLoren
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Curing Cancer with the Rife machine
I remember reading a comment by Rife that viral organisms seemed to be
somewhat crystalline in nature.
He was the Lewis and Clark of this phenomena so a lot has to be understood
yet. W. Campbell Douglass MD and Albert Einstein School of Medicine patents
would be a good starting place.
A lot of bogus Rife stuff is for sale. You need Diogenes and his lamp.
Kirk
Thomas Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello All,
Out of curiosity I looked at a few of the sites that promote/sell Rife
Machines. I thought they were sold to individuals (doctor's?) trained in
their use. The ability to kill cells, pathogenic or not, seems to be
serious
stuff.
I try to imagine signature frequency, a specific frequency
characteristic of each species. Lewis Thomas, in THE LIVES OF A CELL,
suggests that "the most common feature of all living things is uniqueness."
He doesn't mean uniqueness between species, but within species as well.
Every organism on earth is unique .... some have formed interesting
collaborations making it difficult to separate them and keep them alive
..... difficult to see where one ends and the other(s) begin. The very
concept of species is the result of our efforts to group/classify in order
to make the vast array of life manageable for us. It is an artificial
entity
and increasingly difficult to define. If living cells emit electromagnetic
frequencies, I find it hard to conceptualize that, given uniqueness, they
would be the same for each member of a "species" .... and that there
wouldn't be overlap between members of different "species".
With the growing acceptance of Lynn Margulis' Theory of the Evolution
of Eukaryotic Cells .... often referred to as the endosymbiotic theory
... our own cells would be in great danger if bacterial cells were
destroyed as many of the organelles (ex. mitochondria) within our cells
appear to be bacterial in origin. (More Lewis Thomas: "A good case can be
made for our nonexistence as entities ........ We are shared, rented,
occupied. At the interior of our cells, driving them, . ...... are the
mitochondria, and in a strict sense they are not ours. They turn out to be
little separate creatures, the colonial posterity of migrant prokaryotes,
probably primitive bacteriathat swam into ancestral precursors of our
eukaryotic cells and stayed there. ......... My cells are no longer the
pure line entities I was raised with; they are ecosystems more complex than
Jamaica Bay." Wouldn't the essential components of our celluar "ecosystems"
each have different signature frequencies? The cells of eukaryotic
organisms, such as ourselves, would then have a symphony of frequencies
rather than a signature frequency.
The fact that the Rife machine allegedly cures cancer in humans, also
causes some conceptual problems for me. Cancer cells are our cells. They
are
different from the other cells of our bodies hence properly functioning
white blood cells "recognize" and destroy them ... at least most of the
time.
Their increased sensitivity to certain poisons is the basis for
chemotherapy.
If a specific frequency kills cancer cells, why wouldn't a different
frequency kill normal cells?
I had never heard of a Rife machine before. They certainly are
available if one wanted to buy one. Has anyone even been killed by a poorly
calibrated machine?
A quote from Future Tech Today's site:
"You get the ability to sweep through hundreds or even millions of
frequencies over however long a period of time that you like."
Wouldn't such a sweep wipe out beneficial microbes essential to healthy
skin, digestive tracts. etc?
Wouldn't such a sweep kill healthy cells?
I don't dismiss the concept out of hand, but the more I know about the
machine, the more conceptual problems rise to the surface.
D. you wrote:
" The AMA tried to buy the exclusive rights to Rife's technology. When he
rejected them, he was blackballed by the AMA. Bob, the "conspiracy" was
right there, out in the open."
Where can I find this information?
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Mindock"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Curing Cancer with the Rife machine
> The AMA tried to buy the exclusive rights to Rife's technology. When he
> rejected
> them, he was blackballed by the AMA. Bob, the "conspiracy" was right
> there,
> out
> in the open. You don't know of what you speak. But that's never detered
> you,
> huh?
> And of course you can find all sorts of like-minded "experts" espousing
> disinfo to
> back up your claims. You seem to be permanently the closed minded skeptic
> wearing
> proudly your blinders of hard core arrogant ignorance.
> Peace, D. Mindock
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob allen"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Curing Cancer with the Rife machine
>
>
>>
>> big snip
>>>
>>>
>>> Imagine, for a moment, that you have spent more than two decades in
>>> painfully laborious research-- that you have discovered an incredibly
>>> simple, electronic approach to curing literally every disease on the
>>> planet caused by viruses and bacteria .
>>>
>>
>> isn't anybody bothered by such a broad claim as "curing literally every
>> disease on the planet caused by viruses and bacteria" That alone is
>> enough to make me highly skeptical of anything else. And the invocation
>> of "big whatever" conspiracy to suppress this miracle invention cinches
>> it.
>>
>>
>> oh, and ascribing a particular resonant frequency to a bacteria or
>> virus, to be selective one should have a different frequency for each
>> bacteria or virus. Aside from this machine, if this phenomena were
>> true, shouldn't there be data from other sources, hopefully something
>> found via google scholar?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Bob Allen, ozarker.org/bob
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