>Hi Kurt,
>
>Table sugar is artificial; it takes 3 feet of the natural sugar cane plant
>to produce only 1/2 teaspoon of processed sugar.  That's how much refining
>goes on.  If you were to eat a natural sugar cane branch you would be full
>just eating about 6 inches of it because of all the fiber.  we strip all
>that good fiber away.   Our bodies do not digest processed sugar well.
>There is one sweetener that is safe, however, and that is stevia which is
>actually a herb/
>
>Terry Dyck

Glycerine is also a safe sweetener.

Sugar is not a safe sweetener.

The Saccharine Disease: Conditions caused by the Taking of Refined 
Carbohydrates, such as Sugar and White Flour by T. L. Cleave, John 
Wright, 1974
Surgeon Captain T.L. Cleave (1906-83), Director of Medical Research 
at the Royal Naval Medical School, whittled down the root cause of 
dozens of the ills of industrial societies to one simple factor, also 
noted by nutrition pioneer Sir Robert McCarrison: their dependence on 
refined carbohydrates -- the "master-disease". Full text online.
http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html#cleave

Best

Keith


> >From: Kurt Nolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Splenda "Explodes Internally," Says Chemist
> >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:10:22 -0500
> >
> >I personally don't like any of the "Artificial sweeteners" out there. If
> >you want something sweet, you put sugar in it. If normal table sugar
> >doesn't dissolve well, you go to finely ground confectioner's sugar.
> >
> >This goes for coffee, tea, cookies, cakes, candy; anything that needs
> >sweetening gets real sugar put in it.
> >
> >Maybe there are, maybe there aren't hidden death-agents in the
> >Artificial stuff; all I know is they have all shown to leave a nasty
> >aftertaste that requires consuming incredibly strong-tasting foods to
> >get rid of. I do, however, still drink sodas; everyone needs a vice,
> >after all. I just don't drink any of the "diet" or "low calorie" sodas,
> >as they tend to run heavy on the artificials and I'm active enough to
> >burn off calories from the real thing.
> >
> >-Kurt
> >
> >Logan Vilas wrote:
> > > Not trying to be too much of a smartass, but
> > > 300 million Americans, 187 million annually
> > > =623 thousand per an American annually
> > >
> > > That's a little off somewhere.
> > > Logan Vilas
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Mindock
> > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:34 PM
> > > To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
> > > Subject: [Biofuel] Splenda "Explodes Internally," Says Chemist
> > >
> > > Splenda "Explodes Internally," Says Chemist
> > >
> > > By Shane Ellison, M.Sc.
> > >
> > > Copyright 2006C _www.healthmyths.net <http://www.healthmyths.net/
> > > <http://www.healthmyths.net/> >_
> > >
> > > NewsWithViews.com
> > >
> > > 1-11-7
> > >
> > > If there were a contest for the best example of total disregard for
> > > human life, the victor would be McNeil Nutritionals---makers of
> > > Splenda^(TM). Manufacturers of Vioxx^(TM) and Lipitor^(TM) would tie for
> > > a very distant second.
> > >
> > > McNeil Nutritionals is the undisputed drug-pushing champion for
> > > disguising their drug Splenda as a sweetener.
> > >
> > > Regardless of its drug qualities and potential for side effects, McNeil
> > > is dead set on putting it on every kitchen table in America. Apparently,
> > > Vioxx and Lipitor makers can't stoop so low as to deceptively masquerade
> > > their drug as a candy of sort. There is no question that their products
> > > are drugs and by definition come with negative side effects. Rather than
> > > sell directly to the consumer, these losers have to go through the
> > > painful process of using doctors to prescribe their dangerous goods.
> > >
> > > A keen student in corporate drug dealing, McNeil learned from aspartame
> > > and saccharine pushers that if a drug tastes sweet, then let the masses
> > > eat it in their cake. First though, you have to create a facade of
> > > natural health. They did this using a cute trade name that kind of
> > > sounds like "splendid" and packaged it in pretty colors. Hypnotized, the
> > > masses were duped instantly. As unquestionably as a dog humps your leg,
> > > millions of diabetics (and non-diabetics) blindly eat sucralose under
> > > the trade name Splenda in place of real sugar (sucrose).
> > >
> > > Splenda was strategically released on April fool's day in 1998. This day
> > > is reserved worldwide for hoaxes and practical jokes on friends and
> > > family, the aim of which is to embarrass the gullible. McNeil certainly
> > > succeeded.
> > >
> > > The splendid Splenda hoax is costing gullible Americans $187 million
> > > annually*^1 *. While many people "wonder" about the safety of Splenda,
> > > they rarely question it. Despite its many "unknowns" and inherent
> > > dangers, Splenda demand has grown faster than its supply. No longer do I
> > > have to question my faith in fellow Man. He is not a total idiot, just a
> > > gullible one. McNeil jokesters are laughing all the way to the bank.
> > >
> > > Splenda is not as harmless as McNeil wants you to believe. A mixture of
> > > sucralose, maltodextrine, and dextrose (a detrimental simple sugar),
> > > each of the not-so-splendid Splenda ingredients has downfalls. Aside
> > > from the fact that it really isn't "sugar and calorie free," here is one
> > > big reason to avoid the deceitful mix . . . think April fool's day:
> > >
> > > Splenda contains a potential poison---the drug sucralose. This chemical
> > > is 600 times sweeter than sugar. To make sucralose, chlorine is used.
> > > Chlorine has a split personality. It can be harmless or it can be life
> > > threatening.
> > >
> > > In combo with sodium, chlorine forms a harmless "ionic bond" to yield
> > > table salt. Sucralose makers often highlight this worthless fact to
> > > defend its safety. Apparently, they missed the second day of Chemistry
> > > 101---the day they teach "covalent" bonds.
> > >
> > > When used with carbon, the chlorine atom in sucralose forms a "covalent"
> > > bond. The end result is the historically deadly "organochlorine" or
> > > simply: a Really-Nasty Form of Chlorine (RNFOC).
> > >
> > > Unlike ionic bonds, covalently bound chlorines are a big no-no for the
> > > human body. They yield insecticides, pesticides, and herbicides---not
> > > something you want in the lunch box of your precious child. It's
> > > therefore no surprise that the originators of sucralose, chemists Hough
> > > and Phadnis, were attempting to design new insecticides when they
> > > discovered it! It wasn't until the young Phadnis accidentally tasted his
> > > new "insecticide" that he learned it was sweet. And because sugars are
> > > more profitable than insecticides, the whole insecticide idea got canned
> > > and a new sweetener called Splenda got packaged.
> > >
> > > To hide its origin, Splenda pushers assert that sucralose is "made from
> > > sugar so it tastes like sugar." Sucralose is as close to sugar as
> > > Windex^(TM) is to ocean water.
> > >
> > > The RNFOC poses a real and present danger to all Splenda users. It is
> > > risky because the RNFOC confers a molecule with a set of super powers
> > > that wreak havoc on the human body. For example, Agent Orange, used in
> > > the U.S. Army's herbicidal warfare program, is a RNFOC. Exposure can
> > > lead to Hodgkin's lymphoma and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, as well as
> > > diabetes and various forms of cancer! Other shocking examples are the
> > > war gas phosgene, chlordane, and lindane*^2 *. The RNFOC is lethal
> > > because it allows poisons to be fat soluble while rendering the natural
> > > defense mechanisms of the body helpless.
> > >
> > > A poison that is fat-soluble is akin to a bomb exploding internally. It
> > > invades every nook and cranny of the body. Cell walls and DNA---the
> > > genetic map of human life---become nothing more than potential
> > > casualties of war when exposed. Sucralose is only 25% water-soluble*^3
> > > *, which means a vast majority of it may explode internally. In general,
> > > this results in weakened immune function, irregular heart beat,
> > > agitation, shortness of breath, skin rashes, headaches, liver and kidney
> > > damage, birth defects, cancer, cancer and more cancer---for
> > > generations!*^1 *
> > >
> > > McNeil asserts that their studies prove it to be safe for everyone,
> > > even children. That's little assurance. Learning from the Vioxx debacle
> > > (and many others highlighted in my book, /Health Myths Exposed/), which
> > > killed tens of thousands, we know that studies can be bought and results
> > > fabricated.
> > >
> > > Some things are worth dying for. Splenda is not one of them. What people
> > > think of as a food is a drug or slow poison---little distinction there.
> > > It wouldn't be wise to bet your health on it. If safe, sucralose would
> > > be the first molecule in human history that contained a RNFOC fit for
> > > human consumption. This fact alone makes sucralose questionable for use
> > > as a sweetener, if not instantly detrimental to our health. Only time
> > > will tell. Until then, I'll stick to the safe and naturally occurring
> > > stevia plant to satisfy my occasional sweet tooth in 2007.
> > >
> > > Be forewarned though, as long as drugs can be legally disguised as
> > > sweeteners, watch out for drugs being disguised as vitamins . . . oh
> > > wait, they are already doing that---think Lipitor.
> > >
> > > /*About the Author*/
> > >
> > > /Shane Ellison holds a master's degree in organic chemistry and has
> > > first-hand experience in drug design. After abandoning his career as a
> > > medical chemist, he dedicated himself to stopping prescription-drug
> > > hype. He is an internationally recognized authority on therapeutic
> > > nutrition and author of Health Myths Exposed, The Hidden Truth about
> > > Cholesterol-Lowering Drugs, and The AM-PM Fat Loss Discovery. His books
> > > and FREE Life-Saving Health Briefs can be found at /_www.healthmyths.net
> > > <http://www.healthmyths.net/ <http://www.healthmyths.net/> >_/./
> > >
> > > /References/
> > >
> > > 1.
> > >
> > > /Joseph Mercola, Kendra Pearsall. Sweet Deception. Nelson Books.
> > > ISBN: 0785221794. Copyright 2006./
> > >
> > > 2.
> > >
> > > _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_orange_
> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_orange_>
> > >
> > > 3.
> > >
> > > /Caroline W. Sham. Splenda - A Safe and Sweet Alternative to
> > > Sugar. Nutrition Bytes. 2005. Vol. 10. Issue 2. Article 5./
 


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