Yes, what hypocrits.
I saw another interview with Gore where he mentioned that "killer co2
sequestering ap" but
he went on to infer if we get it right,(it would be)
regards
tallex
DK>
> The Bushies argue that there isn't a global warming problem, and that
> America is doing more to address it than any other country.
>
> Sequestration is a no-brainer. There is no certainty that the CO2
> would remain under water or wherever else it was put. Pumping CO2 into
> the deep ocean or underground caverns or whatever would require a
> considerable energy input, which means more fossil fuels would need to be
> burned per unit of electricity provided, which means electricity would
> become much more expensive. Some might argue that this wouldn't
> necessarily be a bad thing, but it would also accelerate fossil fuel
> depletion.
>
>
>
> I have a lot of respect for Al Gore but I saw a video of a talk he
> gave, in which he described sequestration as "the killer app", which
> was a great disappointment. There are much better ways to reduce
> emisssions.
>
>
> Regards
> David
> -------Original Message-------
> From: David Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New Coal Plants Bury 'Kyoto'
> Sent: 16 Jan '07 13:58
>
> Keith Addison wrote:
>
> KA> President Bush says the U.S. will pursue its own policy of voluntary
> KA> carbon reductions and conduct research into technologies like "carbon
> KA> sequestration" -- burying CO2 rather than emitting it.
>
>
> The Bushies argue that there isn't a global warming problem, and that
> America is doing more to address it than any other country.
>
> Sequestration is a no-brainer. There is no certainty that the CO2
> would remain under water or wherever else it was put. Pumping CO2 into
> the deep ocean or underground caverns or whatever would require a
> considerable energy input, which means more fossil fuels would need to be
> burned per unit of electricity provided, which means electricity would
> become much more expensive. Some might argue that this wouldn't
> necessarily be a bad thing, but it would also accelerate fossil fuel
> depletion.
>
>
>
> I have a lot of respect for Al Gore but I saw a video of a talk he
> gave, in which he described sequestration as "the killer app", which
> was a great disappointment. There are much better ways to reduce
> emisssions.
>
>
> Regards
> David
>
>
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> KA> To do that,
> KA> the U.S. Department of Energy hopes to develop new technologies by
> KA> 2012 that would economically capture the greenhouse gas before it
> KA> leaves the power plant.
>
> KA> One approach -- called Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC)
> KA> technology -- aims to siphon off CO2 before it's sent up the stack.
> KA> The largest U.S. power company, American Electric Power in Columbus,
> KA> Ohio, plans to build at least one commercial IGCC plant by 2010.
> KA> Another coal-burning power company, Cinergy, in Cincinnati, this
> KA> month said it also would build an IGCC plant.
>
> KA> But funding for a key billion-dollar federal IGCC experimental
> KA> program called FutureGen is lagging. And unless the U.S. sets a limit
> KA> on CO2 emissions that creates a market for carbon-reducing
> KA> technology, there is little financial incentive to invest in such
> KA> technology, experts say. As a result, the technology appears unlikely
> KA> to be deployed in time to make much difference in the coming surge of
> KA> power-plant construction.
>
> KA> Without such technology, the impact on climate by the new coal plants
> KA> would be significant, though not entirely unanticipated. They would
> KA> boost CO2 emissions from fossil fuels by about 14 percent by 2012,
> KA> Schmidt estimates. That's within the 1 to 2 percent annual range for
> KA> CO2 growth expected in "high-growth" scenarios put forward by climate
> KA> scientists. But it does not fall into the "maximum" scenario they use
> KA> to evaluate the worst-case impact of greenhouse gases.
>
> KA> The power of six
>
> KA> "The point is that a relatively small number of countries holds the
> KA> fate of the planet in their hands in terms of climate change," says
> KA> David Hawkins, director of the Natural Resources Defense Council's
> KA> climate center. "If the five or six countries building all these
> KA> power plants were to come together to develop a strategy for carbon
> KA> capture applied to coal, it would be a huge step toward cutting
> KA> global warming."
>
> KA> Energy security is one factor driving the shift. With its 250-year
> KA> supply of coal, the U.S. is often called the "Saudi Arabia of coal."
> KA> China, with similarly huge reserves, is even planning to convert coal
> KA> into synthetic fuel for cars -- even though such processes typically
> KA> produce large amounts of greenhouse gases.
>
> KA> Coal's low price has been a powerful incentive, too. Chinese
> KA> authorities are pushing for cleaner power. But gas pipelines in China
> KA> aren't fully utilized because of that fuel's higher cost, experts
> KA> say. And in the U.S., utility companies are shifting focus from
> KA> natural gas to coal instead.
>
> KA> "There has been an abrupt about-face," says Robert McIlvaine, who
> KA> heads his own Northfield, Ill., information company that tracks the
> KA> construction of coal power plants globally. "Utilities that would not
> KA> consider a coal-fired plant a year or two ago are now moving forward
> KA> with coal-fired projects."
>
> KA> With natural gas prices expected to continue rising, 58 other nations
> KA> have 340 new coal-fired plants in various stages of development. They
> KA> are expected to go online in a decade or so. Malaysia, Japan,
> KA> Indonesia, Thailand, and Turkey are all planning significant new
> KA> coal- fired power additions. Germany also plans to build eight coal
> KA> plants with 6,000 megawatts capacity.
>
> KA> But China is the key. "The Chinese will surpass the coal-fired
> KA> generating capacity and the CO2 emissions of the U.S. in the next
> KA> couple of years," Mr. McIlvaine says.
>
> KA> Hit by blackouts and power restrictions for 18 months, China has been
> KA> scrambling to relieve that pressure. Scores of unauthorized power
> KA> projects about which little is known have sprouted nationwide --
> KA> along with hundreds of official projects, McIlvaine says. Because of
> KA> this, even careful estimates could be low, both he and Bergesen say.
>
> KA> "Environmental optimists were assuming the world was going to switch
> KA> to gas, but when you're short of gas you use your own coal," says
> KA> Philip Andrews-Speed, a China energy expert at the University of
> KA> Dundee, in Scotland. "What you're seeing with China and the others is
> KA> the cheapness and security of coal just overwhelming the desire to be
> KA> clean."
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