Hi Keith, There is a company in Vancouver, BC, I believe they are called, Dynamotive, who make a product they call Bio Oil. They make it from wood waste.
Terry Dyck >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] USDA Tells Ranchers Non-Corn Ethanol a Priority >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:28:36 +0900 > >Hi Terry > > >Hi Keith, > > > >Using wood waste to create bio-fuel will kill 2 environmental birds > >with one stone. The air pollution from burning slash left over from > >logging operations is causing health problems from poor air quality. > >If we produce biofuel from the slash instead of burning it there > >will be 2 benefits to the environment. > > > >Terry Dyck > >No doubt, but right now it's pie in the sky. Unless you're going to >use h2so4, which you're not going to do. No argument about the amount >of feedstock available, but where's the technology? People seem to >regard it as doable, as if ethanol from all this slash/whatever is >something you can put in your tank and go. But... > > >>Anyone know where you can actually buy some cellulosic ethanol? Or > >>biodiesel from algae? LOL! > >They may well be just around the corner, but they've been just around >the corner for a long time. As of now, they don't exist. > > >>The ethanol production process can use grasses, woody plants, and > >>wood waste, he said. > >There is no such ethanol production process that is actually >producing ethanol for the market. Unless someone says they just >bought some, in which case hooray. But I think not. > >More smoke and mirrors: > >White House: US Cuts Emissions Better than Europe >http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/40267/story.htm > >LOL! > >Best > >Keith > > > > >>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>Subject: [Biofuel] USDA Tells Ranchers Non-Corn Ethanol a Priority > >>Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 01:58:07 +0900 > >> > >>Let them eat grass... > >> > >>Ooops, they're going to make ethanol out of all the grass too. > >> > >> >The ethanol production process can use grasses, woody plants, and > >> >wood waste, he said. > >> > >>Anyone know where you can actually buy some cellulosic ethanol? Or > >>biodiesel from algae? LOL! > >> > >>------ > >> > >>http://www.planetark.com/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/40154/story.htm > >> > >>USDA Tells Ranchers Non-Corn Ethanol a Priority > >> > >>US: February 5, 2007 > >> > >>NASHVILLE, Tenn., - US Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns assured US > >>cattle producers on Friday that the government will work hard to > >>encourage other ways of making ethanol to give them relief from high > >>corn prices. > >> > >>The price of corn, an important cattle feed, have sped higher as more > >>of the grain goes to making the biofuel ethanol. > >> > >>"That is why the Farm Bill proposes a very strong federal commitment > >>to accelerating our research into cost-effective ways of producing > >>cellulosic ethanol from biomass," Johanns said during his address at > >>the convention here of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, the > >>largest US cattle group. > >> > >>The ethanol production process can use grasses, woody plants, and > >>wood waste, he said. > >> > >>The proposed 2007 Farm Bill released last week recommends US$1.6 > >>billion in new funding over the next 10 years targeted at the > >>development of cellulosic ethanol. It also proposes US$2.1 billion in > >>guaranteed loans for cellulosic projects and construction of plants > >>in rural areas. > >> > >>"This constitutes a strong commitment to nailing down the knowledge > >>and building the infrastructure we must have to meet a much larger > >>share of our energy needs," said Johanns. > >> > >>A US$500 million portion of that US$1.6 billion will be used for > >>grants to develop new energy sources, possibly methane gas from > >>livestock waste, he said. > >> > >>"All of that could be a part of this initiative," he said. > >> > >>In a press conference following his speech, Johanns said he supported > >>exploring the use of sugar cane and sugar beets to make ethanol. > >> > >>SOUTH KOREA "FRUSTRATING" > >> > >>Reopening export markets for US beef has been a priority for the > >>NCBA. Overseas markets closed in December 2003 after the United > >>States reported its first case of mad cow disease. > >> > >>Many markets have reopened, with some restricting the type of beef > >>they will accept. South Korea, once the third largest overseas buyer > >>of US beef, is one that remains closed. > >> > >>Last year, South Korea lifted its ban on US beef, but tight > >>restrictions on bone chips and other material has prevented imports > >>from reaching consumers. The United States has been in talks to > >>restart beef sales to South Korea, and more talks are scheduled next > >>week. > >> > >>"The situation in Korea has been frustrating. I'm not giving up. Our > >>beef is safe and should be in Korea," said Johanns. > >> > >>The beef issue has been a major barrier in establishing a bilateral > >>trade deal between the two countries. > >> > >>Story by Bob Burgdorfer > >> > >>REUTERS NEWS SERVICE > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _________________________________________________________________ http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=43.658648~-79.383962&style=r&lvl=15&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=3702663&cid=7ABE80D1746919B4!1329 >From January 26 to February 8, 2007 _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
