Kirk,

     My point:
     The reporters on the video said the article(s) say mercury is "good for 
you". I could not find anything in the article(s) cited that said such a 
thing.
Nor any mention of improved behavior and mental performance.

      Although the reporter mentioned two articles in the journal Pediatrics 
(Feb 1, 08) relating to mercury in vaccines, I only found one article in the 
journal relating to mercury in vaccines ( "Mercury Levels in Newborn and 
Infants After Receipt of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines"). I could not find 
anything in the article to justify the title of the Video: "Mercury is Good 
For You." The researchers found that the injected ethyl mercury in 
thimerosal left the blood of infants faster than ingested methyl mercury did 
in adults   ....  No mention of "improved behavior and mental performance".
 It did not seem that the researchers were making any claims at all that 
mercury was "Good for You". (Methods and Conclusions were included in a 
previous post)

     I pointed out that the video stopped before the report was complete.

     There is an article in the same journal entitled: "Etiological 
Classification of Attention_Deficit/Hyperactive Disorder" (Pediatrics; Feb 
1, 2008; pp. 358 -365) that relates to (but does not specifically say 
anything about) behavior and mental performance, however it does not mention 
mercury or vaccines.
     It includes the observation that number of environmental factors are 
associated with increased risk of ADHD. These include (among other things) 
viral infections to the mother during the third trimester, to the newborn, 
and to the child during early childhood.

     Since some of the viral diseases mentioned (ex measles and influenza) 
can be vaccinated against, is it possible that the news reporters drew their 
own conclusions from the article. (I'm fishing here) Since viral diseases 
are linked to ADHD, could prevention of the viral diseases lead to "improved 
behavior and mental performance" By extension, if vaccines against these 
viral diseases contain mercury could one twist this to say that the vaccines 
(and mercury in them) can "improve behavior and mental performance."

Have you read the article in the journal Pediatrics?
When you say "Mercury is good for you - yes that's what they said"  you are 
quoting the reporters, not the researchers.
                                                                        Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk McLoren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] mercury is good for you - yes, thats what they said


> Are you saying "may be associated with improved behavior and mental 
> performance" could be construed as they are saying it is bad for you? Are 
> you hung up on hearing the literal verbage "good for you"? Does it seem 
> reasonable improved behavior and mental performance means it is good for 
> you? Do people take supplements on the promise they will improve 
> themselves. Whats your point Thomas? What do you get from improved 
> behavior and mental performance -good or bad, which is it?
>  Kirk
>
> Thomas Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Kirk,
> Although I heard at the end of the video that there were two studies in
> the recent (Feb 1, 2008) journal Pediatrics regarding mercury in vaccines
> and that mercury from vaccines "may be associated with improved behavior 
> and
> mental performance", I could not find a second article in the Feb 1 2008
> Pediatrics dealing with mercury in vaccines. I have not been able to find
> anything in the journal saying mercury is "good for you."
>
>>Mercury is cumulative and VERY toxic.
> Agreed
>>These doctors are as bad as the dentists.
> I haven't found any Doctor who says mercury is good for you.
> The TV reporter seemed to be saying researchers did say it, but I couldn't
> find it in the journal that was referred to.
> Tom
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk McLoren"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] mercury is good for you - yes, thats what they said
>
>
>> said it may improve mental performance. If it improves you then it is 
>> good
>> for you. Mercury is cumulative and VERY toxic. These doctors are as bad 
>> as
>> the dentists. They CANT admit it is bad. The liability is enormous, makes
>> tobacco look like chump change.
>>
>> Kirk
>>
>> Thomas Kelly wrote:
>> Thanks Doug,
>> I followed your suggestion. the video did run. Is it only 38 seconds?
>> It seemed to end in the middle of the report.
>>
>>>From abstract of the article "Mercury Levels in Newborn and Infants After
>> Receipt of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines" published in Pediatrics 
>> 2/1/08:
>> "METHODS. Blood, stool, and urine samples were obtained before 
>> vaccination
>> and 12 hours to 30 days after vaccination from 216 healthy children...."
>> "CONCLUSIONS. The blood half-life of intramuscular ethyl mercury from
>> thimerosal in vaccines in infants is substantially shorter than that of
>> oral
>> methyl mercury in adults. Increased mercury levels were detected in 
>> stools
>> after vaccination, suggesting that the gastrointestinal tract is involved
>> in
>> ethyl mercury elimination."
>>
>> While blood levels of ethyl mercury (from thimerosal in the vaccines)
>> returned to normal in 30 days and "Increased mercury levels were detected
>> in
>> stools after vaccination", the question remains: did the ethyl mercury in
>> stool and urine account for all that was administered? Was some stored in
>> body tissue?
>> This does not sound like a landmark study on safety of mercury in
>> vaccines. It certainly does not suggest that it is good for you. Maybe a
>> desperate attempt at damage control:
>>
>> "A pediatric journal has released details of a vaccine study earlier than
>> usual to counter possible negative publicity from a new ABC television
>> pilot
>> set to air Thursday in which a lawyer argues that a flu vaccine caused a
>> child's autism." ABA Journal Law News Now Jan 30, 2008
>>
>> I didn't find anything suggesting mercury from vaccines is good for
>> you. The video did stop before the report ended.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>> From: "doug swanson"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] mercury is good for you - yes, thats what they 
>> said
>>
>>
>>> Thomas Kelly wrote:
>>>> Kirk,
>>>> Unfortunately the video did not run.
>>>> Message: "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."
>>>> Tom
>>> Unfortunately the link was somehow cut up, with spaces...
>>> http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/280.html
>>> see if that works...
>>>
>>> doug swanson
>>>
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