I've looked there.  I've also actually RUN vehicles on vapor, and 
 the maths don't add up.  The improvements to which you refer don't exist 
 in the real world.   
 robert luis rabello  
   "The Edge of Justice""The Long Journey"New Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page 
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

  Sorry to hear this Robert, thats not what I found and apparently not the case 
with car mentioned below in recent Seattle P. I. story. They set a world record 
of 375 miles per gallon, 35 years ago back in 1973! Where is the disconnect 
here? 
   I've worked around  forklifts indoors and I know what  propane exhaust 
smells like,  and I've smelled vaporized gasoline exhaust and I found them 
impossible to differentiate. Both of them are totally cleaner than normal car 
exhaust with even a cat converter on exhaust. 
    It's time we all start using all the tools we got here, 
  and Save Our Planet, dear Earth. 

Mike Pelly     Seattle PI story

<http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html>

Also
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_Supermileage_Competition>

Engine improvements are conceivable - stratified charge, fuel reforming
 
using waste heat, recirculating the combustion chamber boundary layer
 to 
reduce pollution, etc.

Along with producing biofuel one thinks about getting the most out of
 it.

Think "beyond the Citroen 2CV" otherwise known as "the peasant's
friend." Of course, at a certain point a donkey becomes interesting.
Appropriate technology.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


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robert and benita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike Pelly wrote:

>  Any hybrid electric vehicle is an improvement over conventional drive train 
> configurations, But as long as the vehicle continues to either carburate or 
> Fuel inject the gasoline into the intake manifold with the fuel still at 
> ambient temperature, that engine is loosing out on an incredible ability to 
> stretch the fuel millage to its full potential. We are overlooking the 
> biggest and lowest hanging fruits for increasing fuel efficiency as well as 
> cleaning up exhaust emissions and Most Importantly, lowering the creation of 
> Global Warming CO2 emissions from vehicle emissions. 
>  Time to get this magic uncorked from the bottle the oil and auto 
> manufactures have been keeping it in for the past 75 years. The first car 
> company to start offering this option on their vehicles, will  be able to  
> sprint ahead of the others in sales in a short order of time. To learn more 
> about vaporized gasoline (probably will work for diesel fuel and some 
> biofuels too) visit   www.byronwine.com 
>  
>

    I've looked there.  I've also actually RUN vehicles on vapor, and 
the maths don't add up.  The improvements to which you refer don't exist 
in the real world.

robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
"The Long Journey"
New Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/


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