In the US we dont get 6 months mothers leave like the rest of you. Sad but true.

Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Uh, isn't mother's milk kind of 
designed for infants to drink? Why we would
feed them cows milk or liquid derived from legumes is a little beyond me.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote:

> Sadly not a rumor. Notice body builders use soy only as isolate. They tend
> to be more informed than the general public.
>
> http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm
>
> Health-conscious Americans believe in the benefits of tofu, infant formula
> and other food products made from soybeans and soy extract. But their
> assumption is now being called into question by Jill Schneider, associate
> professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Bethlehem,
> Pennsylvania.
> In a study of hamsters completed under Schneider's direction, it was
> recently found that a component of soy beans - isoflavones - significantly
> accelerated the onset of puberty in the rodents.
>
> Lots of other bad side effects referred to in article
> Kirk
>
> Andy Karpay wrote:
> Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet "dollars to
> donuts" that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat
> industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> no
> shi
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM
> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
>
> I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the
> Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia.
>
> But if it is proven to be "feminizing" then all the
> more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat
> it!
>
> ns
> --- Kirk McLoren wrote:
>
> > Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you
> > would share this re your own. Since this is an
> > established medical fact the continuance of approval
> > for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it?
> > Yes- I believe soy is being used for population
> > control.
> > This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a
> > toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your
> > health you have nothing.
> > As for testosterone needed by males it most
> > certainly is and I suspect by females as well.
> > DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me.
> > Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your
> > natural production is woefully inadequate. So to
> > ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very
> > bad.
> > Kirk
> >
> > Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> > Given the population pressures the world is facing
> > (or least the developed
> > world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this
> > be a good thing?
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39253
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Soy is making kids 'gay'
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> > >
> > > Posted: December 12, 2006
> > > 1:00 am Eastern
> > >
> > > (c) 2008
> > >
> > > Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole
> > story:
> > >
> > > Soy is making kids 'gay'
> > > The trouble with soy - part 2
> > > The trouble with soy - part 3
> > > The trouble with soy - part 4
> > > The trouble with soy - part 5
> > > The trouble with soy - part 6
> > >
> > > There's a slow poison out there that's severely
> > damaging our children and
> > > threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic
> > part is, it's a "health
> > > food," one of our most popular.
> > >
> > > Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom
> > allows anything into his
> > > kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here
> > just so you'll know I'm
> > > not anti-health food.
> > >
> > > The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean
> > products are feminizing,
> > > and they're all over the place. You can hardly
> > escape them anymore.
> > >
> > > I have nothing against an occasional soy snack.
> > Soy is nutritious and
> > > contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when
> > you eat or drink a lot of
> > > soy stuff, you're also getting substantial
> > quantities of estrogens.
> > >
> > > Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman,
> > you're flooding your
> > > system with a substance it can't handle in
> > surplus. If you're a man, you're
> > > suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your
> > "female side," physically
> > > and mentally.
> > >
> > > In fetal development, the default is being female.
> > All humans (even in old
> > > age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that
> > keeps men from diverging
> > > into the female pattern is testosterone, and
> > testosterone is suppressed by
> > > an excess of estrogen.
> > >
> > > If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and
> > you're able to fight off
> > > some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't
> > so fortunate. Research is
> > > now showing that when you feed your baby soy
> > formula, you're giving him or
> > > her the equivalent of five birth control pills a
> > day. A baby's endocrine
> > > system just can't cope with that kind of massive
> > assault, so some damage is
> > > inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be
> > fatal.
> > >
> > > Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a
> > decrease in the size of the
> > > penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's
> > why most of the medical
> > > (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in
> > homosexuality must fall upon
> > > the rise in soy formula and other soy products.
> > (Most babies are bottle-fed
> > > during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth
> > of them are getting soy
> > > milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their
> > homosexuality is inborn because "I
> > > can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual."
> > No, homosexuality is always
> > > deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say
> > that they can't remember a
> > > time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them.
> > >
> > > Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes,
> > prevent cancer and heart
> > > disease, and save millions in the Third World from
> > starvation. That was
> > > before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now
> > we know it's a classic
> > > example of a cure that's worse than the disease.
> > For example, if your baby
> > > gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to
> > soy milk? Don't even think
> > > about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20
> > times normal. If he is a
> > > she, brace yourself for watching her reach
> > menarche as young as seven,
> > > robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy,
> > it's far worse: He may
> > > not reach puberty till much later than normal.
> > >
> > > Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at
> > any age can lead to a weak
> > > thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems
> > and excess fat. Could this
> > > explain the dramatic increase in obesity today?
> > >
> > > Recent research on rats shows testicular atrophy,
> > infertility and uterus
> > > hypertrophy (enlargement). This helps explain the
> > infertility epidemic and
> > > the sudden growth in fertility clinics. But alas,
> > by the time a soy-damaged
> > > infant has grown to adulthood and wants to marry,
> > it's too late to get fixed
> > > by a fertility clinic.
> > >
> > > Worse, there's now scientific evidence that
> > estrogen ingredients in soy
> > > products may be boosting the rapidly rising
> > incidence of leukemia in
> > > children. In the latest year we have numbers for,
> > new cases in the U.S.
> > > jumped 27 percent. In one year!
> > >
> > > There's also a serious connection between soy and
> > cancer in adults -
> > > especially breast cancer. That's why the
> > governments of Israel, the UK,
> > > France and New Zealand are already cracking down
> > hard on soy.
> > >
> > > In sad contrast, 60 percent of the refined foods
> > in U.S. supermarkets now
> > > contain soy. Worse, soy use may double in the next
> > few years because (last I
> > > heard) the out-of-touch medicrats in the FDA
> > hierarchy are considering
> > > allowing manufacturers of cereal, energy bars,
> > fake milk, fake yogurt, etc.,
> > > to claim that "soy prevents cancer." It doesn't.
> > >
> > > P.S.: Soy sauce is fine. Unlike soy milk, it's
> > perfectly safe because it's
> > > fermented, which changes its molecular structure.
> > Miso, natto and tempeh are
> > > also OK, but avoid tofu.
> > >
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